Yes, we can.

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-13-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Yeah, I used that excuse as well - but it's not like I called the other president Bill.

No, you mistook my meaning. We call her Hillary because there's already been a well-known Clinton. We call him Dubya because there's already a well-known Bush.

Have I said "Enough with the dynasties" lately?

€uroMeinke · 02-13-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

No, you mistook my meaning. We call her Hillary because there's already been a well-known Clinton. We call him Dubya because there's already a well-known Bush.

Have I said "Enough with the dynasties" lately?

No, I really think that's a convenient excuse we tell ourselves - don't feel like doing an analysis but do you really think you say "Dubya" as much as you say "Hillary" - Myself, I could not answer that honestly in the affirmative, I suspect the same true for you.

But I'll leave it up to Kevy to do the statistical analysis

Not Afraid · 02-13-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

No, you mistook my meaning. We call her Hillary because there's already been a well-known Clinton. We call him Dubya because there's already a well-known Bush.

Have I said "Enough with the dynasties" lately?

No, we use Dubya when we're being demeaning.

As far as dynasties go, I'll take another Roosevelt - or two.

sleepyjeff · 02-13-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

As far as dynasties go, I'll take another Roosevelt - or two.

Chet Roosevelt

JWBear · 02-14-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

As far as dynasties go, I'll take another Roosevelt - or two.

How about those Harrisons? Bennie for President! Woot, woot!

Snowflake · 02-14-2008, 11:31 AM

Millard Fillmore should have had a dynasty.

€uroMeinke · 02-14-2008, 11:46 AM

just to clarify, I find I'm more interested in the semiotics of the campaign than the actual politics.

Not sure if it was a campaign decission early on to use "Hillary" it certainly would be a strategy to make her more freindly and familiar - and even distinguish her from her Husband. But I notice her people now are using "Senator Clinton" - which makes sense if it's experience that she's selling. It's still a long way to November, but it seems in this respect she may have already lost in the language war as her symbols contradict one another.

On the other hand, I too wonder about what it says that a Russian Constructavist image of Obama is one we find so appealing - certainly the style has other contexts - but then again campaigns are propaganda wars and good symbology goes a long way.

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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	just to clarify, I find I'm more interested in the semiotics of the campaign than the actual politics. Not sure if it was a campaign decission early on to use "Hillary" it certainly would be a strategy to make her more freindly and familiar - and even distinguish her from her Husband. But I notice her people now are using "Senator Clinton" - which makes sense if it's experience that she's selling. It's still a long way to November, but it seems in this respect she may have already lost in the language war as her symbols contradict one another. On the other hand, I too wonder about what it says that a Russian Constructavist image of Obama is one we find so appealing - certainly the style has other contexts - but then again campaigns are propaganda wars and good symbology goes a long way. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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