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[scaeagles]

The WSJ link I posted lays out exactly what his plan entails. Either it does or it doesn't. If you dispute what it says, fine.

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is? A tax cut means you pay less taxes. Obama now defines it as giving money to people who have paid no fdederal income taxes.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is?

Oy. You missed my point.
See above.
Again. This is Joe the Plummer on Obama:

"And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance... Almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr," he said.

I find that to be a underhanded, insulting comment directed at Obama.
If he didn't mean it that way, he needed to think about what it would sound like.
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On the lighter side of the debate: (SFW)

Spoiler:

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

"And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance... Almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr," he said.

SFW and kinda disturbing, too.

Spoiler:

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[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

The WSJ link I posted lays out exactly what his plan entails. Either it does or it doesn't. If you dispute what it says, fine.

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is? A tax cut means you pay less taxes. Obama now defines it as giving money to people who have paid no fdederal income taxes.

Jeez read the comments, yikes, Americans at their finest.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is?

GC already pointed out what you apparently missed, but I'm repeating it because I'm astounded by what a tin ear you seem to have. Apparently, Joe the Plumber's ears are equally tin (or perhaps copper would be more appropriate). In any event, he clearly wasn't ready for the prime time suddenly foisted upon him, and did not take careful consideration to how his words would sound .... or, alternatively, he's an unabashed racist.

But, um, comparing Obama to a tap-dancing Sammy Davis, Jr. is a fracking racist remark.


Joe's an azshat for saying it ... and I'm rather shocked you simply glossed over it, scaeagles, and professed not to understand what was racist about Joe's remarks.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But, um, comparing Obama to a tap-dancing Sammy Davis, Jr. is a fracking racist remark.

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

How in the hell is that racist?

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

Yeah, whatdya know? -- all the ones I think of are black. Maybe I betta shut the fvck up so's I don't come off like a RACIST when making personal comparisons to the first black presidential candidate.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yeah, whatdya know? -- all the ones I think of are black. Maybe I betta shut the fvck up so's I don't come off like a RACIST when making personal comparisons to the first black presidential candidate.

You are letting color dictate your speech. Because Sammy was black you think he cannot be compared to Obama. Joe was color blind and just compaired a tap dancing politician to a real tap dancer. So who's the racist here?

[3894]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

You are letting color dictate your speech. Because Sammy was black you think he cannot be compared to Obama. Joe was color blind and just compaired a tap dancing politician to a real tap dancer. So who's the racist here?

Joe the Plumbing Contractor. The implication was that Sen. Obama shucks and jives.

Re: the distraction called Joe the Plumbing Contractor. Joe's income over $250,000 would be taxed at 39%, rather than the current 36%. So if Joe the Plumber makes $300,000, his tax bill goes up $1,500. That's $125 a month.

My cell phone bill is more than that. Joe is a Kool-Aid-drinking Republican plant. Old-style Karl Rove politics and so terribly, terribly tired.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by 3894

Joe the Plumbing Contractor. The implication was that Sen. Obama shucks and jives.

Re: the distraction called Joe the Plumbing Contractor. Joe's income over $250,000 would be taxed at 39%, rather than the current 36%. So if Joe the Plumber makes $300,000, his tax bill goes up $1,500. That's $125 a month.

My cell phone bill is more than that. Joe is a Kool-Aid-drinking Republican plant. Old-style Karl Rove politics and so terribly, terribly tired.

A plant? Oh good grief. He's a real American with real views and real concerns. Extra taxes on any group is going to cause concern within that group or in this case, someone who is working hard to be in that group.

Is it really necessary to vilify anyone that opposes your master plans?