Michael Moore's "Sicko"

Alex · 06-22-2007, 10:32 PM

"Free." Mousepod says Moore has only one requirement and it is a requirement I oppose. First of all, there is no such thing as "free." Just making people who use the system less than average subsidize those who use it more.

I do not think it is the role of government to provide health care and I think, in the long term, handing complete responsibility for that to the government will lead to the eradication of personal freedom of choice in almost every realm of life. Just as the commerce clause simply forces congress to find a way to define every activity in terms of interstate trade so that they can regulate it, once all medical expenses flow through the government any activity that government wants to regulate will be filtered through how it effects "public health." This is already too big an abuse in our current government (see, for example, the arguments for motorcycle helmet laws). When I am responsible for the medical bills of mountain climber Bob who falls and breaks his leg do I not (so will go the argument) have participation in deciding whether he'll be allowed to mountain climb? Or eat fatty foods. Or live in places that increase general medical costs or any of thousands of other things.

I believe that the increasing roll of government in mandating medical care is a large part of its atrononimcal increase in cost and this will only get worse, not better unless the government nationalizes the whole system from research, to equipment manufacture, to institions, to employees.

There are some things that are good about other nations systems for doing things and there are some things that are good about ours. That's why we go to Canada for drugs and Canadians come to America for heart surgery.

No I have not yet seen Sicko. Unless there were previews this weekend I don't think anybody in this country has yet seen it legally though I know it is readily available on the internet now. But based on previous Michael Moore documentaries I expect that he has cherry picked his facts, engaged in guerrilla tactics to catch people off guard and make them look stupid, and generally distorted things to present his point of view. Which is completely his privilege.

Ponine · 06-25-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

No I have not yet seen Sicko. Unless there were previews this weekend I don't think anybody in this country has yet seen it legally though I know it is readily available on the internet now.

Just because I didnt see this addressed anywhere.. yes, there were sneak previews this past weekend.
Mind you I knew they were this past weekend the 23rd in San Diego. I dont know when they were in other cities.
I know the sneaks were in response to the fact that the film was on the web.
I just couldnt find anyone else who wanted to attend.

06-22-2007, 10:32 PM	#1
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	"Free." Mousepod says Moore has only one requirement and it is a requirement I oppose. First of all, there is no such thing as "free." Just making people who use the system less than average subsidize those who use it more. I do not think it is the role of government to provide health care and I think, in the long term, handing complete responsibility for that to the government will lead to the eradication of personal freedom of choice in almost every realm of life. Just as the commerce clause simply forces congress to find a way to define every activity in terms of interstate trade so that they can regulate it, once all medical expenses flow through the government any activity that government wants to regulate will be filtered through how it effects "public health." This is already too big an abuse in our current government (see, for example, the arguments for motorcycle helmet laws). When I am responsible for the medical bills of mountain climber Bob who falls and breaks his leg do I not (so will go the argument) have participation in deciding whether he'll be allowed to mountain climb? Or eat fatty foods. Or live in places that increase general medical costs or any of thousands of other things. I believe that the increasing roll of government in mandating medical care is a large part of its atrononimcal increase in cost and this will only get worse, not better unless the government nationalizes the whole system from research, to equipment manufacture, to institions, to employees. There are some things that are good about other nations systems for doing things and there are some things that are good about ours. That's why we go to Canada for drugs and Canadians come to America for heart surgery. No I have not yet seen Sicko. Unless there were previews this weekend I don't think anybody in this country has yet seen it legally though I know it is readily available on the internet now. But based on previous Michael Moore documentaries I expect that he has cherry picked his facts, engaged in guerrilla tactics to catch people off guard and make them look stupid, and generally distorted things to present his point of view. Which is completely his privilege.
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