Yes, we can.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Theodore Rooseveldt was Republican, and many of his progressive causes and ideals would get him labled a liberal if he were alive today. (Just one example out of many.)

JFK was a Democrat, yet his tax policies would get him labeled as a tax cuts for the wealthy conservative if he were alive today.

[Morrigoon]

Heh, good point

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

JFK was a Democrat, yet his tax policies would get him labeled as a tax cuts for the wealthy conservative if he were alive today.

Let's Play Name that President....

Known for funny ways he pronounced certain words.

Used fathers influence to get into a certain branch of the Military.

Family was good friends to Senator Joseph McCarthy.

Won the Presidency by the narrowest of margins.

Launched an attack on a Country which had not attacked the US.

Expanded funding for education.

Made cutting taxes an administration priority.

His younger brother, often touted as a Presidential hopeful himself, was also very active in politics.

[Alex]

Zachary Taylor?

McCarthy was, as is the wont of evil, really old.

[Morrigoon]

sleepyjeff: ah yes, but only Kennedy would admit to being a doughnut

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

sleepyjeff: ah yes, but only Kennedy would admit to being a doughnut

Funny, except that he said those words in Berlin....and in so doing never actually admited to being a doughnut(because citizens of Berlin, unlike most Germans, did not use the term Berliner when describing a doughnut)....they called them Pfannkuchens.

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I think the chosen marketing slogan of "Yes we can" is telling in itself.

His VP and supporters can run under the slogan "You can do it, we can help."

Though I find it inspiring to see people so inspired, I think I grew jaded on politics after peaking too early. I was a strong Regan Republican through elementary school. Was ok on Bush the first (though I preferred Steve Forbes and Perot in subsequent elections) and eventually watched as the Republican party and the Democratic party merged yet still somehow hated each other.

All they want to do is raise my taxes, fund pork barrel projects, and take away my freedoms and rights. Thought I suppose they are divided on how and what they want to tax, what waste they want to fund and which freedoms they want to take away, but to me, it's really all the same.

Change? Change what exactly? I only want a President that will do two things:

• Let me keep my own money
• Let me keep my guns (or right to own them)

Outside of that, I guess I don't care too much anymore. The most powerful man (or woman) in the world really isn't all that powerful.

Tax the wealthy? What is wealthy? Regarding the recent tax cuts, some have said that wealthy = $100,000 a year. Hah! Please. Maybe in some rundown town of Hope, Arkansas, but not in SoCal. Of course geographical considerations are rarely taken into account.

Anyway, what was I talking about? Oh yeah. Jaded. Feel totally blah about the election still. Don't like the Republican candidate much though I guess his views correlate most with mine. Hillary seems evil. Obama is inspirational, of course I have seen lot's of inspirational speakers at my time at Fortune 500 companies. Not sure I would vote for any of them. That and I disagree with 70% of his views.

But, I have to vote cause well, I can't complain if I don't. And I will definitely want to complain about whichever of the 3 eventually takes the office. Full-well knowing that their impact is rather limited. Unless they try to take my guns or money. You bastards! Leave those money and gun caches were you found 'em.

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

In other words, if Hilllary were a man and McCain were a woman, I would likely vote for McCain.

It's your vote, but that seems as ridiculous to me as the women who voted for Clinton because he was "cute".

I'm offended that sexism or racism would factor into this election and voting for either simply because of gender or skin color does just that. Just the same as not voting for one of them due to their race or skin color.

[innerSpaceman]

Well, you just said above that the President does not have much power, and I agree. To me, it's a figurehead job. And so symboligy is an important element to me.

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Well, somebody has to pay for Mr Bush's little war. Personally, I'd rather it be the rich and the big corporations than the poor and middle class.

Who are these rich and big corporations exactly, and who do they employ? Is it all rich people that work for the rich corporations? Seems like that wouldn't really work. One would likely need to have middle class folks employed in a large corporation, but perhaps they exist just the same. If so, please post the top 5 so I can ready some resumes.

Thanks!