Yes, we can.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

A public thank you to Sac for posting info. I'm beginning to wonder where all those LoT Obama voters went.

Regarding sound bites - they're sound bites. All sides have them. As always, you want facts, you have to read up on things.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'm beginning to wonder where all those LoT Obama voters went.

Currently I'm an ABC voter (Anyone But Clinton) . Which puts me squarely in Obama's camp. As soon as the wicked witch of the east gets a little more cold water on her and Obama gets the nomination then it will be time to take a hard look at his youthful exuberance VS McCain's experience.

I also wonder how many of Obama's votes are from the ABC party and what will happen to them once Clinton is out of the race.

[scaeagles]

That's a good point, Moon. While there are the Obama groupies, there are also those that don't want Clinton to be the nominee.

[Morrigoon]

Here's the problem: a vote for McCain is a vote for business as usual. Not that McCain is the same as Bush necessarily, but the party as a whole will view a vote for McCain as a vote for Republicans and a vote for continuing to do what they've been doing.

So maybe this year I'm an ABCotGOP

[Ghoulish Delight]

That can be said of any candidate. And some (I'd venture most, by virtue of party affiliation) would vote for Obama in a general election and some would vote for McCain. Likely balanced out by all of the "Anyone but Romney or Hucakbee" voters on the other side.

For what it's worth, Obama still holds a lead over McCain in national straw polls, while Clinton is now trailing.

[innerSpaceman]

i gotta admit: Clinton would bring out Republican voters, and Obama will not inspire that much vitriol. So far in the primaries, Democratic voters have vastly outnumbered Repulicans.

I'd hate to upset that particular apple cart. So on a strategical vote, I'd vote for Obama. On my equally non-substantive historical symbology vote, I'd vote for Clinton.

Many people will be voting for electoral strategy. Are those votes any more vapid than my gender-based vote?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Many people will be voting for electoral strategy. Are those votes any more vapid than my gender-based vote?

Agreed. I've always held that voting based on the pundit-defined notion of "electablilty" is not only patently lame, but ultimately self-sabotaging as it tends to lead to selecting the blandest candidate possible (John Kerry much?).

[cirquelover]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'm beginning to wonder where all those LoT Obama voters went.

I'm still here, I'm just not much of a debater so I stay out of the way most of the time

Usually being from Oregon, your vote doesn't count in the primaries anyway. This year may actually be different though, we'll have to wait and see.

Gary is the one in our family who was a debater and follows all the politics of the day. Some days I'm so busy with Zach I'm lucky if I see a tv all day! LoT is my one vice and I try to get here most days. I like LoT better than politics!

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

A public thank you to Sac for posting info. I'm beginning to wonder where all those LoT Obama voters went.

Regarding sound bites - they're sound bites. All sides have them. As always, you want facts, you have to read up on things.

I'm here. I am a LoT Obama voter because I like what he has to say and I am hopeful it is implemented. I am not an ABC or an Anti-Rep voter. I am an Obama voter.

[Kevy Baby]

Had I been able to, I would have voted for Obama in the primaries. Primarily because of the Democratic choices, I felt he had the best promise to lead our country.

But secondarily because I think Clinton is dangerous. (I wasn't really well versed on the rest of the Democratic candidates.)