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Strangler Lewis · 02-22-2008, 10:55 AM

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And now I have Stand by Your Man playing on a loop in my head.

Tammy Wynette or the Lyle Lovett version from the end of "The Crying Game." You remember "The Crying Game." It's where . . .

blueerica · 02-22-2008, 11:32 AM

I hate to be arguing semantics here, but the, or at least my, issue was experience, not whether anyone agreed or disagreed with what she did with her 'experience'.

And I completely agree with Alex, that it's more like 6 and 2 years under their terms as senators.

innerSpaceman · 02-22-2008, 11:46 AM

And sorry, but Hillary gets tons of credit in my book for choosing to dedicate herself to revolutionalizing the life and death, sickness and healthcare world of Americans, rather than planting flowers by the roadsides. I don't care if she was elected or not.

Was Eleanor Roosevelt elected?

Strangler Lewis · 02-22-2008, 12:00 PM

Or Edith Wilson? Or Judith Exner?

sleepyjeff · 02-22-2008, 12:51 PM

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And sorry, but Hillary gets tons of credit in my book for choosing to dedicate herself to revolutionalizing the life and death, sickness and healthcare world of Americans, rather than planting flowers by the roadsides. I don't care if she was elected or not.

Was Eleanor Roosevelt elected?

Eleanor spent much of her childhood laughing and playing in the WhiteHouse when her Uncle was its' occupant.....I wonder if that counted as experience

Morrigoon · 02-22-2008, 01:04 PM

BE: My issue is respect for the voters. And honesty.

JWBear · 02-22-2008, 01:15 PM

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As far as Obama... what is he offering us, really? Leadership. As Cheney proves daily, one of the most important aspects of presidency is the president's ability to form and effectively lead a TEAM. Bush has failed miserably at this, and we're pretty sure it's really Vice President Palpatine that's running the show. If Obama can move and inspire the large numbers of people he has in this campaign - even taking conservatives like myself and CP and getting us on his side without actually veering from his liberal agenda, there is somethig to be said for his leadership skills there. That's what we need most right now... Leadership.

Hear, hear!!

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-22-2008, 01:59 PM

Morrigoon nailed it.

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Was Eleanor Roosevelt elected?

Ok, seriously, you think that Hillary Clinton is comparable to Eleanor Roosevelt? Really, seriously? Hell, I'm not even a huge Eleanor fan, and I still think you're overstepping things by quite a bit.

Seriously, if people want the President to be "The Married President Team", they better amend the f'n constitution.

blueerica · 02-22-2008, 02:12 PM

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BE: My issue is respect for the voters. And honesty.

My point is that respect and honesty, though they could be gained through it, generally have little to nothing to do with experience, and yet the argument here seemed to be that she didn't have experience, on top of being dishonest, etc etc etc. To me, they are separate issues.

Alex · 02-22-2008, 02:17 PM

I think she has experience of close up observation of the system. I definitely credit her with that.

I do not think she actually has much experience being actually responsible for things and even less being legally accountable for things.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I think she has experience of close up observation of the system. I definitely credit her with that. I do not think she actually has much experience being actually responsible for things and even less being legally accountable for things.
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