Yes, we can. - Page 54

scaeagles · 03-10-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Not one of those, Scaeagles. He scares the hell out of me. I truly think he's whacked out.

I do, too - remember, I described him as reminding me of DeNiro as Capone with a baseball bat.

scaeagles · 03-11-2008, 06:20 AM

Hmmm...interesting quote from Geraldine Ferraro, former VP candidate and a member of the Clinton team....she's basically saying that Obama is only doing well because he's a black man and everyone is afraid to criticize him. At least that's how I read it.

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If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.

She goes on to whine about a sexist media. Sheesh. I do feel like the media doesn't criticize Obama, but I think it's because they are all enamoured by him....like the hysterical Saturday Night Live skit from a few weeks ago, if anyone has heard or seen it.

Alex · 03-11-2008, 06:51 AM

He can't win for losing...or something like that.

Early arguments against Obama from many Democrats was that he couldn't win because he was black. Not that the person saying it cared that he was black but that too many other people would care so for that person to vote for him would be a waste. Now, he's succeeding only because he is black.

There is certainly some excitement about seeing a black man go so far in the process, just as for many there is excitement at seeing a woman do the same. But it is silly to say it is only or primarily because he is black. Al Sharpton or Charles Rangel wouldn't have made it past Iowa.

But certainly it is part of the package. But her being a woman is part of Clinton's package as well.

Moonliner · 03-11-2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I honestly don't know if I would vote for Hillary if it came down to it. I wouldn't vote for McCain. I'd probably end up being a participant in the "Nader vote".

Even if you decide not to decide you still have made a choice.
- Rush (The band not the blowhole)

Motorboat Cruiser · 03-11-2008, 07:33 AM

It has been suggested that the one positive aspect to having Hillary be Obama's VP is that it pretty much ensures that nobody would attempt a presidential assassination.

scaeagles · 03-11-2008, 07:37 AM

I think Hillary would attempt a Presidential assassination.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-11-2008, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

But certainly it is part of the package. But her being a woman is part of Clinton's package as well.

And then there's Bill's package...

Cadaverous Pallor · 03-11-2008, 08:27 AM

Geraldine Ferraro?? Wow, they're all coming out of the woodwork now...

Morrigoon · 03-11-2008, 11:07 AM

Wow, they're reeeeeeeeally reaching, aren't they? The news is so desperate for a "scandal"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23571095/

Not Afraid · 03-11-2008, 11:54 AM

I've seen quite a few Che Obama posters (posted in illegal places) around Long Beach. I wonder if the guy who did these is a local.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	He can't win for losing...or something like that. Early arguments against Obama from many Democrats was that he couldn't win because he was black. Not that the person saying it cared that he was black but that too many other people would care so for that person to vote for him would be a waste. Now, he's succeeding only because he is black. There is certainly some excitement about seeing a black man go so far in the process, just as for many there is excitement at seeing a woman do the same. But it is silly to say it is only or primarily because he is black. Al Sharpton or Charles Rangel wouldn't have made it past Iowa. But certainly it is part of the package. But her being a woman is part of Clinton's package as well.
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Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	It has been suggested that the one positive aspect to having Hillary be Obama's VP is that it pretty much ensures that nobody would attempt a presidential assassination.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I think Hillary would attempt a Presidential assassination.
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Wow, they're reeeeeeeeally reaching, aren't they? The news is so desperate for a "scandal" http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23571095/ __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I've seen quite a few Che Obama posters (posted in illegal places) around Long Beach. I wonder if the guy who did these is a local.
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