WTF Stories of the Week

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by blueerica

Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say WTF, because it makes sense from a biological standpoint in this particular case, but the photos are pretty astounding...

Pregnant 'Man'

I saw a news bit on that today and I was wondering if it would get coverage on LoT. I really don't see what the big deal about a woman having a baby is. Biology does not care much for legal distinctions.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I saw a news bit on that today and I was wondering if it would get coverage on LoT. I really don't see what the big deal about a woman having a baby is. Biology does not care much for legal distinctions.

Because it is a transgender MAN having the baby. People who are transgender often feel that there was a biological f**kup that is being corrected by making their bodies match their gender (or lack thereof... there's a lot more to it than a man wanting to be a woman and vice versa, as in, a lot of gray shades in between). For one thing, the FTM (female-to-male) involved in this has been taking testosterone for many years, I believe had the "top surgery" (double masectomy) -- socially and mentally (and hormonally) this person is male, with the chromosomes and nether regions as a female.

To say that this person is a woman with a mere LEGAL distinction of being male is incredibly trivializing and condescending.

I mean, I guess you could say that you don't see what the big deal of a person who was born with a vagina and uterus having a baby is, but it IS an odd case because of the social aspects of the whole thing.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

Because it is a transgender MAN having the baby. People who are transgender often feel that there was a biological f**kup that is being corrected by making their bodies match their gender (or lack thereof... there's a lot more to it than a man wanting to be a woman and vice versa, as in, a lot of gray shades in between). For one thing, the FTM (female-to-male) involved in this has been taking testosterone for many years, I believe had the "top surgery" (double masectomy) -- socially and mentally (and hormonally) this person is male, with the chromosomes and nether regions as a female.

To say that this person is a woman with a mere LEGAL distinction of being male is incredibly trivializing and condescending.

I mean, I guess you could say that you don't see what the big deal of a person who was born with a vagina and uterus having a baby is, but it IS an odd case because of the social aspects of the whole thing.

Nature also does not care about how one feels or their mental outlook. Nature is a cold hard bitch that eats baby seals and lets kittens starve.

So yeah, I don't see how a messed up individual having a baby makes national headlines. It happens everyday. If she can love and take care of the child then great for her but is it news? I still say no.

The news story I saw was all about "medical miracle" Man having babay. Which is not true and that's what I responding to not the individual in the story.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

So yeah, I don't see how a messed up individual having a baby makes national headlines. It happens everyday. If she can love and take care of the child then great for her but is it news? I still say no.

The news story I saw was all about "medical miracle" Man having babay. Which is not true and that's what I responding to not the individual in the story.

You're not making any sense here whatosever.

First, you're responding to the "messed up individual" (ummmmmm how many trans people do YOU know, apparently zero). Which you were responding to before.

Then you say you're not responding to the individual, you're responding to the news headline. Which said nothing about a medical miracle. The person is indeed a transgender man who is pregnant.

Now what do nature and seals have to do with the price of dogfarts in China?

[Kevy Baby]

What do you call the surgery for a sex-change to go from a woman to a man?

Spoiler:

Adadictamy (say it out loud - several times if necessary)

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

You're not making any sense here whatosever.

Yeah, I get that alot.

Originally Posted by Chernabog

First, you're responding to the "messed up individual" (ummmmmm how many trans people do YOU know, apparently zero).

Yes, messed up in a chemical/physical sense. If you deny that you are closing your eyes to the truth. On an emotional/social level I have no idea this individual might be another Jack the ripper, a Mother Teresa or anywhere in between I have no idea and it's not really relevant anyway.

Originally Posted by Chernabog

Then you say you're not responding to the individual, you're responding to the news headline. Which said nothing about a medical miracle. The person is indeed a transgender man who is pregnant.

I'm responding to A news story not the news story. "Medical Miracle" was the title of the story I'm talking about.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Yeah, I get that alot.

Me too, no worries.

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Yes, messed up in a chemical/physical sense. If you deny that you are closing your eyes to the truth. On an emotional/social level I have no idea this individual might be another Jack the ripper, a Mother Teresa or anywhere in between I have no idea and it's not really relevant anyway.

The implication you made before is that trans people are messed up, they aren't normal people, that they're mentally and socially lacking (i.e. not right in the head, etc.). If you say someone got "messed up" or are "messed up", that is pretty negative connotation. Maybe we're just arguing semantics here. Many trans people have happy, fulfulling, productive lives, and the only difference between you and I and them is that they were born with the wrong set of physical glands. To think about this stuff certainly screws with one's traditionally taught concepts of gender, sex, social norms, and the idea of what is "normal" to begin with.

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I'm responding to A news story not the news story. "Medical Miracle" was the title of the story I'm talking about.

Well then whatever newsperson wrote that particular headline was a complete schmuck.