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Old 04-03-2008, 07:17 PM   #1
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Every headline I have read on this implies that a man, born a biological male was pregnant. What reality is a man, who was a woman, decided to keep his biological "plumbing" so he could have a child one day. The "plumbing" he was born with. The plumbing that was designed by nature to produce children. If a man, who was born a biological male was also born with ovaries and a uterus, the story would be *news* to me.

It saddens me that he is experiencing discrimination in receiving care because he changed his gender identity. But I don't think him being pregnant is any sort of medical miracle then any other couple who undergoes artificial insemination since at one time, he was a woman, with female organs, that he chose to keep when he became a man.

Few concerns though - what happens if they can't get to the hospital in time to have a C section? What will happen to the breast milk that develops?
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Old 04-03-2008, 07:42 PM   #2
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Few concerns though - what happens if they can't get to the hospital in time to have a C section? What will happen to the breast milk that develops?
I'm pretty sure the person in question didn't change anything "down there", so a vaginal birth isn't out of the question. And they DID have a double masectomy, so there is no tissue to produce milk, I don't think.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:25 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure the person in question didn't change anything "down there", so a vaginal birth isn't out of the question. And they DID have a double masectomy, so there is no tissue to produce milk, I don't think.
If he didn't change anything "down there" then how can he legally be a man and legally married to a[nother] biological woman? I'm totally un-knowledgeable in this area.
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If he didn't change anything "down there" then how can he legally be a man and legally married to a[nother] biological woman? I'm totally un-knowledgeable in this area.
What is the law in California on defining men and women for marriage? Military service? Affirmative action? Is it based on chromosomes? Parts?
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If he didn't change anything "down there" then how can he legally be a man and legally married to a[nother] biological woman? I'm totally un-knowledgeable in this area.
Legal change of status required one of the three possible surgeries, and Thomas had his breasts removed. Genital surgery is not required (and often messes up more than it fixes).

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The headline should have been "Transgender Person Pregnant."
I do agree there. Media sucks. A lot.

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However, it would seem to me that if you want to remain a viable mother then you want to be a woman.
I think the issue was more of expediency than of wanting to be a mother. He wants to be a father. I think they would have difficulty adopting, so "being [his] own surrogate" is a sure way of ensuring parental rights in the future.

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What is the law in California on defining men and women for marriage? Military service? Affirmative action? Is it based on chromosomes? Parts?
I think if we based gender status on chromosomes a lot of us would be very surprised. I'm not actually sure what the legal status is based on. I'm just glad I was born with the bits that match my sense of myself. Not everybody is so lucky.
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Man with suicide victim's heart takes own life

He even married the donor's widow after the transplant 12 years ago

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He even married the donor's widow after the transplant 12 years ago
Some women just have that effect on men.
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