Yes, we can.

[Alex]

I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities for plenty of offense and some of it will be justified and other parts won't.

But it is hardly a statement without support that manufactured offense is a big part of the standard political playbook.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Alex

But it is hardly a statement without support that manufactured offense is a big part of the standard political playbook.

Indeed it is standard. Which is why I find it so amazing that when it dared be used against Obama it is found to be so shocking and out of the boundaries of the norm.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Indeed it is standard. Which is why I find it so amazing that when it dared be used against Obama it is found to be so shocking and out of the boundaries of the norm.

Perhaps because it comes from people that seem to want for him to fail so desperately that they scrutinize everything he says and does in an attempt to find anything, no matter how trivial, to smear him with. So they leap on this comment with howls of fake outrage; when if, had it been said by one of the other candidates, it would barely have made page 20.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Perhaps because it comes from people that seem to want for him to fail so desperately that they scrutinize everything he says and does in an attempt to find anything, no matter how trivial, to smear him with. So they leap on this comment with howls of fake outrage; when if, had it been said by one of the other candidates, it would barely have made page 20.

I completely disagree. Obama has been handled gently by the media, like a precious breakable package that we had best not even think about finding fault in.

The Saturday Night Live Skit with the media falling all over themselves like groupies at an Obama press conference is right on the money.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I completely disagree. Obama has been handled gently by the media, like a precious breakable package that we had best not even think about finding fault in.

The Saturday Night Live Skit with the media falling all over themselves like groupies at an Obama press conference is right on the money.

I wasn't referring to the media.

However, ever since that SNL skit, they've been falling all over themselves to be more critical, IMO.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Indeed it is standard. Which is why I find it so amazing that when it dared be used against Obama it is found to be so shocking and out of the boundaries of the norm.

I didn't say it wasn't normal. Hence my distaste for politics, the media, and oh yeah, all of humankind's SNAFU systems.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I wasn't referring to the media.

However, ever since that SNL skit, they've been falling all over themselves to be more critical, IMO.

Interestingly, I think SNL's gone the opposite direction. Their first couple of shows post-strike, the jokes were VERY pro-Clinton. As the season's gone on they've skewed a little more balanced in their satire, perhaps even ending up pro-Obama on the whole.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Indeed it is standard. Which is why I find it so amazing that when it dared be used against Obama it is found to be so shocking and out of the boundaries of the norm.

I don't find it outside the boundaries of the norm. But I think you'll find that I've spoken against a lot of manufactured outrage issues on all sides over the years.

So I don't see me speaking out against this one outside the norm either.

Just speaking for myself though.