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Strangler Lewis · 05-01-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

As far as being in trouble, the whole topic of conversation would be whether or not the republican could keep his religious views out of his governing. He wants to do the Lord's work? What exactly does he think that means? Locking women up in the kitchen with no shoes????? Who's Lord is he referring to?!?!?! We all have our own religious or non religious views and he CAN'T IMPOSE HIS ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And these concerns would be legitimate since, at least where the already born are concerned, Republican politicians typically invoke the old time religion in the name of exclusion and intolerance. If some politician wants to (occasionally) humbly cite Jesus's teaching as informing his message of brotherhood and charity, I'm not going to have too much of a problem with it. I believe the vogue phrase these days is "Red Letter Christian."

JWBear · 05-01-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Not a stretch at all, there, really. Wright says he based his entire philosophy on Cone. Obama says (or has implied, certainly) that Wright is a mentor.

If A = B and B = C then A = C.

The first two parts of the equation are just assumptions on your part, not facts.

scaeagles · 05-01-2008, 04:19 PM

I would argue that at least the second part of the equation is true enough to most people has caused Obama to react as he has in order to stop the tremendous tide of negative public opinion. I don't think anyone here (perhaps I'm wrong) thinks Obama distancing himself from Wright is anything but political expedience.

Based on Wright saying that Cone and his philosophy are what he based the philosophy of his church on, I would think the first part is relative sound as well.

Kevy Baby · 05-01-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

While we're using math:

"mentor" != = & ∴ B != C ∴ A != C

That's fuzzy math.

€uroMeinke · 05-01-2008, 07:32 PM

I don't get the controversy - I mean, so are we supposed to be worried that Obama will stop the infect African americans with aids program, or spoil the next 911 conspiracy?

Not Afraid · 05-01-2008, 07:43 PM

James Cone, eh? I wonder if I'm related.

scaeagles · 05-01-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

I don't get the controversy - I mean, so are we supposed to be worried that Obama will stop the infect African americans with aids program, or spoil the next 911 conspiracy?

Personally, I think it speaks to poor judgment.

innerSpaceman · 05-01-2008, 08:14 PM

Eh, I'm not the biggest Obama fan ... but if this is the worse that can be flung against him ... say hello to the next President of the United States.

I've rarely seen so much ado about nothing.

€uroMeinke · 05-01-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Personally, I think it speaks to poor judgment.

I dunno - Bush fell for the whole Weapons of Mass Destruction conspiracy theory and we made him president

scaeagles · 05-01-2008, 09:00 PM

Bush indeed did, as did his predecessor, but we're talking about Obama.

If this is no big deal, however, why did Obama feel the need to suddenly "see the light" when only a day or two before he had said he could not abandon Wright? It was a political decision made to limit political damage.

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Eh, I'm not the biggest Obama fan ... but if this is the worse that can be flung against him ... say hello to the next President of the United States. I've rarely seen so much ado about nothing.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Bush indeed did, as did his predecessor, but we're talking about Obama. If this is no big deal, however, why did Obama feel the need to suddenly "see the light" when only a day or two before he had said he could not abandon Wright? It was a political decision made to limit political damage.
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