Yes, we can.

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

If that letter is authentic...

Uh, why would it not be authentic. The Advocate isn't some tabloid...

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Two boll weevils grew up in South Carolina. One went to Hollywood and became a famous actor. The other stayed behind in the cotton fields and never amounted to much

The second one, naturally, became known as the lesser of two weevils.

No one lol. He'll just keep going with the bad jokes.

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

He wants both sides of the issue. Or so it would seem. Knowing that the LGBT will never vote for a Republican (en masse), he'll give it lip service to the group but I'm doubting he'll make it a campaign issue.

Maybe so. But I'd be willing to take my chances with Obama.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

He wants both sides of the issue. Or so it would seem. Knowing that the LGBT will never vote for a Republican (en masse), he'll give it lip service to the group but I'm doubting he'll make it a campaign issue.

Well, for me anyway, if that is his personal belief then that is the kind of "having it both ways" I wish we saw more of in politicians.

Saying "I personally don't agree with this policy but will not stand in the way because it is simply my personal view and that is not sufficient reason for imposing it on others" is a very powerful form in integrity.

I wish I could remember where it was so I might find the video of it, but I did once see him at a debate or town hall type thing answer the question of whether he supported gay marriage very bluntly in the no. And then he went on and explained himself and what that meant in such a way that I was left thinking "well...short of simply saying yes that was the best answer to the question I've ever heard."

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This one, Alex?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73oZ_pe1MZ8

[Alex]

Can't watch YouTube at work. Will confirm tonight.

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Originally Posted by Alex

Can't watch YouTube at work. Will confirm tonight.

It could be that one or this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlY9HFRNUHs

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Alex

But is it still his personal view that marriage should be between one man and one woman (he has always said he wouldn't oppose state efforts but that he personally does not support gay marriage)? Or is he officially changing his stance on gay marriage?

I think it's the former. I have to see where I read that.

Which is fine. He can think a marriage should be between one man and one woman all he wants. He doesn't have to marry multiple people or marry a man.

But he's not going to try to tell the rest of the country they have to think the same way he does.

Or at least that is how I read it.

[wendybeth]

Why should same-sex marriage be an 'issue' in the campaign anyway? We have so many serious concerns to address, and this habit of developing issues (like choice, etc) to throw people off the trail of what really should be on the table is annoying. Same-sex marriage rights are being affirmed by more and more courts, and like any other civil rights issue they will prevail, because it is just and right and when it comes down to it we have a pretty good track record of (eventually) doing the right thing in this country.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

But he's not going to try to tell the rest of the country they have to think the same way he does.

In which case, I want him to marry me ... that's how in love with him I am.


I think that's the best example for leadership this country needs right now ... along the lines of my personal views do not need to be imposed on everyone else.

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Why should same-sex marriage be an 'issue' in the campaign anyway? We have so many serious concerns to address, and this habit of developing issues (like choice, etc) to throw people off the trail of what really should be on the table is annoying. Same-sex marriage rights are being affirmed by more and more courts, and like any other civil rights issue they will prevail, because it is just and right and when it comes down to it we have a pretty good track record of (eventually) doing the right thing in this country.

It shouldn't be an issue. It's used as a divisive tool by fundies. That then fires up the gays to fight back. Lots of wasted money being thrown at this non-issue.