Yes, we can.

[scaeagles]

You see, I often wonder if it is the same type of struggle.....and not being gay....... because, oh yeah, there's NONE of that on the LoT btw ......(hahahaha), economically, educationally, jobwise....I don't see the same type of discrimination. However, I am perfectly willing to admit since I'm not gay I just may not know.

[wendybeth]

I'm not black, but I can only imagine what kind of crap they have to deal with on a daily basis. Just because I don't experience what they do doesn't make what happens any less valid- and anyone who thinks gay people don't face discrimination, hostility and the like are living in a bubble. I don't see many churches looking to hire gay persons, and in quite a few communities across this land they are routinely denied employment, admittance to social groups, etc. It's not easy for an openly gay person to win public office, and do I even need to to mention the military?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

You see, I often wonder if it is the same type of struggle.....and not being gay....... because, oh yeah, there's NONE of that on the LoT btw ......(hahahaha), economically, educationally, jobwise....I don't see the same type of discrimination. However, I am perfectly willing to admit since I'm not gay I just may not know.

I don't really think it makes much sense to try to rank quality of oppression. Oppression is oppression, just because it manifests in different ways doesn't mean they aren't born of the same thing.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I don't really think it makes much sense to try to rank quality of oppression. Oppression is oppression, just because it manifests in different ways doesn't mean they aren't born of the same thing.

I disagree. I think there are certainly levels of oppression which certainly rank worse than others. I do think slavery is worse and more offensive than denying someone a state sanctioned marriage and am not ashamed to say so. I can think of 100s of forms of oppression that would fall in the same category of being worse than that.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I disagree. I think there are certainly levels of oppression which certainly rank worse than others. I do think slavery is worse and more offensive than denying someone a state sanctioned marriage and am not ashamed to say so. I can think of 100s of forms of oppression that would fall in the same category of being worse than that.

However, the ideals that lead to the end of any form of oppression remain the same. And the methods necessary to get our from under it remain the same. And the passion that engenders from those within it is the same. If you truly believe that you are unfairly being denied equal status as a human being, you're not going to take it well when someone says, "Get over it, my plight was way worse." The relative degree of oppression does not make it any less valid, nor does it negate the "worse" case from being a fair analogy.