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scaeagles · 07-31-2008, 08:05 AM

And it may be an effective strategy. The problem is that he's saying that McCain is doing it, which is blatantly false. McCain is not doing it. He says McCain and Bush do not have real answers, so THEY are going to do this.

That is not factual. They have done no such thing. I get why he's doing it.

Is there racism? Indeed. Is McCain doing anything that has brought up Obama's race as an issue? Not even one.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-31-2008, 08:15 AM

Keep trying to tell the world that McCain is not a racist. Perhaps he hasn't gone on the record saying "Obama is a n!gger" but he did use the word "gook" in 2000. Seriously, in the year 2000. Yes, he was talking about his captors, but come on, the word gook doesn't disqualify him for the presidency the way the word "n!gger" would?

I'm going to read this book soon.

scaeagles · 07-31-2008, 08:18 AM

All I know is only one person in this campaign is making race an issue.

innerSpaceman · 07-31-2008, 09:26 AM

As well he should. I'm not condoning misprepresenting McCain. This misreprehensible!

But the first black candidate for president should make race an issue. It's regretable if he's lying about his opponent while doing it. Maybe that's his way of demonstrating he's just like every white candiate for president.

Gemini Cricket · 07-31-2008, 09:45 AM

Getting back to the article Leo quoted, Obama has a point. The Republicans, Bush have been using scare tactics to achieve their goals. And it will continue until Election Day.

scaeagles · 07-31-2008, 09:50 AM

As do the dems. Drill for oil, create nevironmental devastation. Our policies in the middle east and regarding terrorism make us less safe. Blah, blah, blah. Both sides do it.

Gemini Cricket · 07-31-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

As do the dems. Drill for oil, create nevironmental devastation. Our policies in the middle east and regarding terrorism make us less safe. Blah, blah, blah. Both sides do it.

The Democrats are not innocent. But you can't tell me that the Republicans haven't been exploiting fear since 2001 and have had basically no other way to get the citizens of this country to support their party. Obama called Bush, Rove and the Republicans on their usage of fear tactics in the past, now. I'm glad he did.

innerSpaceman · 07-31-2008, 10:12 AM

BTW, Rand Corporation report out today says the military-might strategy of defeating al-Queda is a complete failure and has done nothing to diminish their terrorist capabilities (i.e., we are not safer). It recommends switching to intelligence-gathering and criminial pursuit tactics, and concludes that, d'uh, there is no battlefield solution to terrorism.

Would it be considered scare tactics to refer to that report?

scaeagles · 07-31-2008, 10:13 AM

Perhaps there are those who actually want to keep taxes lowered that support the republicans as well. Just a thought. Or pro-lifers, who are quite possibly the biggest single issue voting block out there. Or any other number of groups. It may be a tactic - again, used by both parties - but it is certainly not all they have to offer. That is how the dems portray the republicans and you buy into it.

scaeagles · 07-31-2008, 10:17 AM

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Would it be considered scare tactics to refer to that report?

Not in the least.

Nor would any other number of pointing out reports by organization A or organization B supporting whichever side of whatever issue.

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	And it may be an effective strategy. The problem is that he's saying that McCain is doing it, which is blatantly false. McCain is not doing it. He says McCain and Bush do not have real answers, so THEY are going to do this. That is not factual. They have done no such thing. I get why he's doing it. Is there racism? Indeed. Is McCain doing anything that has brought up Obama's race as an issue? Not even one.
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Keep trying to tell the world that McCain is not a racist. Perhaps he hasn't gone on the record saying "Obama is a n!gger" but he did use the word "gook" in 2000. Seriously, in the year 2000. Yes, he was talking about his captors, but come on, the word gook doesn't disqualify him for the presidency the way the word "n!gger" would? I'm going to read this book soon. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	All I know is only one person in this campaign is making race an issue.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	As well he should. I'm not condoning misprepresenting McCain. This misreprehensible! But the first black candidate for president should make race an issue. It's regretable if he's lying about his opponent while doing it. Maybe that's his way of demonstrating he's just like every white candiate for president.
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Getting back to the article Leo quoted, Obama has a point. The Republicans, Bush have been using scare tactics to achieve their goals. And it will continue until Election Day.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	As do the dems. Drill for oil, create nevironmental devastation. Our policies in the middle east and regarding terrorism make us less safe. Blah, blah, blah. Both sides do it.
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07-31-2008, 10:12 AM	#1418
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	BTW, Rand Corporation report out today says the military-might strategy of defeating al-Queda is a complete failure and has done nothing to diminish their terrorist capabilities (i.e., we are not safer). It recommends switching to intelligence-gathering and criminial pursuit tactics, and concludes that, d'uh, there is no battlefield solution to terrorism. Would it be considered scare tactics to refer to that report?
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07-31-2008, 10:13 AM	#1419
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Perhaps there are those who actually want to keep taxes lowered that support the republicans as well. Just a thought. Or pro-lifers, who are quite possibly the biggest single issue voting block out there. Or any other number of groups. It may be a tactic - again, used by both parties - but it is certainly not all they have to offer. That is how the dems portray the republicans and you buy into it.
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