Yes, we can.

[scaeagles]

Well, in the same light, what would be the reason to keep the current congress?

I disagree with the premise of your statement. Two f-ed up wars is a matter of opinion. The economy, while not moving along at any sort of rapid pace, is not in recession and just had 1.9% growth. It hasn't had one quarter of negative growth. Huge deficit? With you. But all spending originates in the house. I have oft been a critic of Bush on how much he spends. High gas prices? I would argue that the republicans have better plans than the dems to bring them down and am not sure what policies of the current administration have led to them.

You call me lockstep? Nope. Not me. I think about my choice. We just come to different conclusions.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I would argue that the republicans have better plans than the dems to bring them down and am not sure what policies of the current administration have led to them.

Is that your answer to my question?



Let me paint a picture on how I'm feeling about the people bashing Obama right now:

A fire has started in a large building where everyone lives. The people in the building see two firemen coming to their aid. Fireman A is new, Fireman B is a veteran fireman whose friend is the arsonist. Fireman A acknowledges and assess the fire. Fireman B thinks the fire is in everyone's head, a make believe fire. The people can only pick one fireman to help them. Who should one pick?

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

A fire has started in a large building where everyone lives. The people in the building see two firemen coming to their aid. Fireman A is new, Fireman B is a veteran fireman whose friend is the arsonist. Fireman A acknowledges and assess the fire. Fireman B thinks the fire is in everyone's head, a make believe fire. The people can only pick one fireman to help them. Who should one pick?

?????

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Let me paint a picture on how I'm feeling about the people bashing Obama right now:

A fire has started in a large building where everyone lives. The people in the building see two firemen coming to their aid. Fireman A is new, Fireman B is a veteran fireman whose friend is the arsonist. Fireman A acknowledges and assess the fire. Fireman B thinks the fire is in everyone's head, a make believe fire. The people can only pick one fireman to help them. Who should one pick?

The fire still rages, but the supporters of Fireman B have noticed that Fireman A has a different haircut than Fireman B. They laugh and mock Fireman A for his hair and come to the conclusion that he is a terrible fireman and try to convince everyone else that he's awful as well. The people need to decide, but while everyone is focusing on the controversy of something innocuous, irrelevant as what kind of haircut B has, the condition of the building is getting worse and worse.
Oh, and did I mention that Fireman B is really, really old?

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Well, in the same light, what would be the reason to keep the current congress?

Very few, that I can think of, Waxman being one. I'd love to see Pelosi and Hoyer tossed out.

I've seen some suggest that Pelosi is a genius for staying out of the way and letting W continue to step on his dick, but I'm not one that agrees.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Two f-ed up wars is a matter of opinion.

... only as to the degree of f-ed-upedness Anyone who still insists our course of action in Iraq was proper is not someone I can take seriously.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

The economy, while not moving along at any sort of rapid pace, is not in recession and just had 1.9% growth. It hasn't had one quarter of negative growth.

Wait till the bank failures start hitting. It's gonna get ugly.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

High gas prices? I would argue that the republicans have better plans than the dems to bring them down and am not sure what policies of the current administration have led to them.

We'll never agree here. One side wants to kick the ball further down the road, the other wants to change the game we're playing.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

You call me lockstep? Nope. Not me. I think about my choice. We just come to different conclusions.

I'm curious. Have you ever voted for a democrat. CP says she never has. I've seen another say the same, but the name escapes me at present. How 'bout you? I'll admit I'd be surprised to see you say you ever have.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

I'm curious. Have you ever voted for a democrat. CP says she never has. I've seen another say the same, but the name escapes me at present. How 'bout you? I'll admit I'd be surprised to see you say you ever have.

I have indeed. I will admit never in a national election, but in locals here in AZ I have a few times.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I have indeed. I will admit never in a national election, but in locals here in AZ I have a few times.

Yeah, I should have put the qualifier on that. Thank you for the complete answer.

Shame you never got to vote for Reagan, huh?

I did

neener neener

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Yeah, I should have put the qualifier on that. Thank you for the complete answer.

Shame you never got to vote for Reagan, huh?

I did

neener neener

You have my gratitude for that.

And just so you know, I have flirted with voting for Obama because it is going to be very difficult to vote McCain. The flirtation only lasted about 4 seconds, but it was a flirtation nonetheless.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

You have my gratitude for that.

And just so you know, I have flirted with voting for Obama because it is going to be very difficult to vote McCain. The flirtation only lasted about 4 seconds, but it was a flirtation nonetheless.

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

We'll never agree here. One side wants to kick the ball further down the road, the other wants to change the game we're playing.

I see it as one team ignores the current game and just wants to play a new one, and the other is willing to continue to play the current game while setting up to play in the new one.