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Old 09-01-2008, 10:50 AM   #1
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I read it.

Seriously, though, one speech to me does not mean that her political history goes out the window.
The speech itself was insistent and made its point over and over and over. "Think of the future", "this isn't about me", "the issues are what matters", "every vote matters", "no one should wait on the sidelines", "can't afford 4 more years", "I'll campaign as hard as I can for O", etc etc etc. Not word one of it was contrary. I guess you can ignore the speech entirely if you like, but I can't, because it happened.

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I was discussing polling today and I think this may be the year that the major polls gets bit in the ass by a major demographic change: the abandonment of landline telphones combined with the fact that it is illegal to poll cell phone numbers.
I've read about this too, though when you mention it to doubters and conservatives all you get is "that's spin, wishful thinking, blah blah." Basic fact - many young people don't have landlines at all.
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:38 AM   #2
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I guess you can ignore the speech entirely if you like, but I can't, because it happened.
Sigh. Not ignoring her speech. Just trying to say that one speech does not change my opinion of her as someone who is concerned primarily with herself rather than her party. I believe the proof will be in what happens over the next two months, not what she said in one speech.

I would add , since McCain has moved significantly to the right on tax cuts and other such things, that I believe McCain, once in office, will act upon what he has been saying. Campaigns make people do and say all sorts of things that don't really mean much.
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I would add , since McCain has moved significantly to the right on tax cuts and other such things, that I believe McCain, once in office, will act upon what he has been saying. Campaigns make people do and say all sorts of things that don't really mean much.

Sorry to quote myself - wanted to point out that I did not type what I intended. I meant to say that I do NOT believe McCain will act upon what he has been saying during the campaign, and will go back to pre campaign mode, as evidenced in his voting record and pre campaign speeches.
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I've read about this too, though when you mention it to doubters and conservatives all you get is "that's spin, wishful thinking, blah blah." Basic fact - many young people don't have landlines at all.

I don't regard this as wishful thinking at all, I just think pollsters have typically been pretty good at their craft, and since it is their livelihood, none want the stigma of getting it completely wrong. I figure they are doing all sorts of things to get the numbers right. This is certainly a new twist, and they may be completely wrong.
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