All About McCain - Page 36

scaeagles · 09-01-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I would add , since McCain has moved significantly to the right on tax cuts and other such things, that I believe McCain, once in office, will act upon what he has been saying. Campaigns make people do and say all sorts of things that don't really mean much.

Sorry to quote myself - wanted to point out that I did not type what I intended. I meant to say that I do NOT believe McCain will act upon what he has been saying during the campaign, and will go back to pre campaign mode, as evidenced in his voting record and pre campaign speeches.

Not Afraid · 09-01-2008, 01:05 PM

Nothing matches the glee I feel when someone so socially conservative has to eat a big piles of public humiliation. I love watching the little dance they always seem to do to get out of it.

scaeagles · 09-01-2008, 01:29 PM

Are you talking about her daughter being pregnant? How has she danced regarding this? She's come right out and addressed it and asked for privacy for her daughter....and in fact brought it forth herself due to the quite spiteful and vicious left wing rumors that Trig is not hers.

alphabassettgrrl · 09-01-2008, 01:38 PM

I am appalled at Palin being chosen in large part because she's demonstrated almost immediately on taking office that she is more than happy to use her office for personal reasons. She tried to get her sister's exhusband fired for nothing more than being involved in a nasty divorce. When that attempt failed, she got his boss fired. WTF? Not cool.

McCain has been harping on Obama for having no experience, and yet he picks this girl? Who has very little experience in government? She's been governor for two years, not very much time. And of Alaska, somewhat out of the way. What are her qualifications? She's a mom. I don't agree that that qualifies anybody for political office.

I guess she's a well-behaved Republican. She touts her husband and her children, she's a pretty girl, she's pro-life, and she has zero respect for the environment.

I'm appalled that if this goes badly, we'll have her as a Vice for 4 years. Not to mention McCain as president for those years. I shudder and hope we can survive it.

I'm sure he's trying to get the Hilary girls, but they're not conservative. They don't believe a woman's place is in the home, they demand to make their own reproductive choices and think nobody gets to tell them what to think, and they prefer a strong woman, not just a pretty face.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded · 09-01-2008, 01:59 PM

Did McCain choose Palin or a Lohan for VP?

Does her daughter have a deal for her own Disney Channel series yet?

scaeagles · 09-01-2008, 02:02 PM

That could perhaps be one of the most offensive posts I've ever read, alphabassetgrrl. Sorry I asked.

Sub la Goon · 09-01-2008, 02:16 PM

I think ABgrrl's post was not offensive at all and just illustrates the disdain with which some (don't know how many or what percentage) progressive women view McCain's VP choice.

The submittal of this n00b Alaskan to answer/entice disappointed Hillary supporters?
That is the real offense.

scaeagles · 09-01-2008, 02:30 PM

I cannot speak to what she said regarding the firings and all. I don't know anything of it...there could be something to it, i don't know.

It was her third and fifth pargraphs, particularly the fifth, that I find to be offensive and ridiculously ignorant. I'm a conservative and don't happen to think my wife's place is in the home, and if you think my wife is stupid and doesn't think for herself as a conservative, than you obviously don't know many conservative women. My wife teaches at a Christian school where she was (gasp!) even allowed to remain as a teacher after giving birth! Can you believe it?!?!?! ABG has insulted every conservative female I know. How dare they NOT think like her! That must mean they are under the thumb of a domineering male who has brainwashed her into thinking that way.

On top of that, I don't know personally know any conservative leaning men that like stupid women nor any who have chsined their wives to a stove.

Yep - pretty insanely insulting.

And Sub, she offers a lot more than being just a woman in terms of consolidating a very shaky conservative base for the republicans.

Strangler Lewis · 09-01-2008, 02:34 PM

Keep it coming, ladies. My mother, who was going to vote for McCain, now says she'll vote for Obama because of McCain's selection of Palin, this pretty nobody. My wife's elderly great aunt, who's never voted for a Democrat, will sit this out. (Frankly, I think they'll both change their minds again by election day.)

I don't think too much sport should be made of Bristol's pregnancy. I am interested in learning if Levi is a 17-year-old Michael Cera type or a 30-year-old oil worker. Will we see him before the election? As far as the possibility of covering up Trig, I'm mildly sympathetic to a misguided attempt to protect her daughter. What concerns me on the "what kind of person are we electing here" front is whether Palin made/is making decisions that are actually damaging to her family in service of her own political ambition.

I also don't like seeing people who campaign in terms of moral absolutes not being able to live up to them. However, like Reagan and Clinton, she may be one of those people who can milk sympathy and approval by projecting herself as a sinner of personal limitations. We'll see.

But as with Clinton and all these dogs, the truth comes out. Would I object to seeing some trumped up legal proceeding where Palin and all involved have to answer questions under penalty of perjury? Not at all.

innerSpaceman · 09-01-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

She's come right out and ... brought it forth herself due to the quite spiteful and vicious left wing rumors that Trig is not hers.

So, are you admitting the candidate would likely not have revealed this little Family Values gaffe if there were no rumors that could be squelched only with this uncomfortable truth?

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

That could perhaps be one of the most offensive posts I've ever read, alphabassetgrrl. Sorry I asked.

Sometimes, scaeagles, i have to wonder what planet you're on. alphabassetgrrl put it all together concisely, with conviction, and quite patriotically.

Are you saying none of that stuff about Palin is true? Using her office to fire people for personal reasons has been well-documented in the press. You asked here for a follow-up example to her disregard for the environment, and you were provided one.

What are you trying to claim about Ms. Palin??? That's she's not a corrupt hyprocrit lacking in experience and stewardship??? On.What.Planet?

E.T.A.: scaeagles has already expanded on his position while i was typing this, so disregard as necessary

09-01-2008, 01:05 PM	#352
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Nothing matches the glee I feel when someone so socially conservative has to eat a big piles of public humiliation. I love watching the little dance they always seem to do to get out of it.
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09-01-2008, 01:29 PM	#353
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Are you talking about her daughter being pregnant? How has she danced regarding this? She's come right out and addressed it and asked for privacy for her daughter....and in fact brought it forth herself due to the quite spiteful and vicious left wing rumors that Trig is not hers.
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09-01-2008, 01:38 PM	#354
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	I am appalled at Palin being chosen in large part because she's demonstrated almost immediately on taking office that she is more than happy to use her office for personal reasons. She tried to get her sister's exhusband fired for nothing more than being involved in a nasty divorce. When that attempt failed, she got his boss fired. WTF? Not cool. McCain has been harping on Obama for having no experience, and yet he picks this girl? Who has very little experience in government? She's been governor for two years, not very much time. And of Alaska, somewhat out of the way. What are her qualifications? She's a mom. I don't agree that that qualifies anybody for political office. I guess she's a well-behaved Republican. She touts her husband and her children, she's a pretty girl, she's pro-life, and she has zero respect for the environment. I'm appalled that if this goes badly, we'll have her as a Vice for 4 years. Not to mention McCain as president for those years. I shudder and hope we can survive it. I'm sure he's trying to get the Hilary girls, but they're not conservative. They don't believe a woman's place is in the home, they demand to make their own reproductive choices and think nobody gets to tell them what to think, and they prefer a strong woman, not just a pretty face. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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09-01-2008, 01:59 PM	#355
Bornieo: Fully Loaded Lego Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Disneyland, USA Posts: 3,704	Did McCain choose Palin or a Lohan for VP? Does her daughter have a deal for her own Disney Channel series yet?
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09-01-2008, 02:02 PM	#356
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	That could perhaps be one of the most offensive posts I've ever read, alphabassetgrrl. Sorry I asked.
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09-01-2008, 02:16 PM	#357
Sub la Goon Ride me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The line forms here... Posts: 326	I think ABgrrl's post was not offensive at all and just illustrates the disdain with which some (don't know how many or what percentage) progressive women view McCain's VP choice. The submittal of this n00b Alaskan to answer/entice disappointed Hillary supporters? That is the real offense. __________________ You roll the dice, you move your mice.
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09-01-2008, 02:30 PM	#358
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I cannot speak to what she said regarding the firings and all. I don't know anything of it...there could be something to it, i don't know. It was her third and fifth pargraphs, particularly the fifth, that I find to be offensive and ridiculously ignorant. I'm a conservative and don't happen to think my wife's place is in the home, and if you think my wife is stupid and doesn't think for herself as a conservative, than you obviously don't know many conservative women. My wife teaches at a Christian school where she was (gasp!) even allowed to remain as a teacher after giving birth! Can you believe it?!?!?! ABG has insulted every conservative female I know. How dare they NOT think like her! That must mean they are under the thumb of a domineering male who has brainwashed her into thinking that way. On top of that, I don't know personally know any conservative leaning men that like stupid women nor any who have chsined their wives to a stove. Yep - pretty insanely insulting. And Sub, she offers a lot more than being just a woman in terms of consolidating a very shaky conservative base for the republicans.
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09-01-2008, 02:34 PM	#359
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Keep it coming, ladies. My mother, who was going to vote for McCain, now says she'll vote for Obama because of McCain's selection of Palin, this pretty nobody. My wife's elderly great aunt, who's never voted for a Democrat, will sit this out. (Frankly, I think they'll both change their minds again by election day.) I don't think too much sport should be made of Bristol's pregnancy. I am interested in learning if Levi is a 17-year-old Michael Cera type or a 30-year-old oil worker. Will we see him before the election? As far as the possibility of covering up Trig, I'm mildly sympathetic to a misguided attempt to protect her daughter. What concerns me on the "what kind of person are we electing here" front is whether Palin made/is making decisions that are actually damaging to her family in service of her own political ambition. I also don't like seeing people who campaign in terms of moral absolutes not being able to live up to them. However, like Reagan and Clinton, she may be one of those people who can milk sympathy and approval by projecting herself as a sinner of personal limitations. We'll see. But as with Clinton and all these dogs, the truth comes out. Would I object to seeing some trumped up legal proceeding where Palin and all involved have to answer questions under penalty of perjury? Not at all. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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