Republican National Convention '08 - Page 11

wendybeth · 09-03-2008, 08:16 PM

So, she's mocking Obama for working in communities to improve the lives and environs of the disadvantaged- then she calls him elite. This is going to bite them in the ass more than any sordid family scandal she's got going. I think he probably worked a hell of a lot harder than she ever did- since when did being the mayor of a podunk little town of less than 10,000 become so difficult?

scaeagles · 09-03-2008, 08:45 PM

To quote what I said in the McCain thread -

It was clearly a barb related to them slamming on her experience or lack there of, particularly with Obama now proclaiming that he has more experience than Palin - as if it matters if he does or not. She's the VP candidate, he's the candidate for President.

And WB - I think they started slamming on her as a mayor of a small town before she started slamming on him as a "community organizer". And to any extent she has aliented those people he was organizing, Obama (or his campaign) has alienated small town America by belittling her as mayor of a small town.....as if they don't matter.

scaeagles · 09-03-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Okay, seriously... I disagree with her political positions, but I have got to grant her that she comes across EXTREMELY WELL in public speaking. As a politician, I have to hand it to her (except my vote, of course!

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I broke my rule. I watched it (hey, I broke it to watch Kucinich as the request of ISM). I must agree about how she came across. She gave an exceptional speech in terms of presentation.

I need to read the full text now.

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-03-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

It was clearly a barb related to them slamming on her experience or lack there of, particularly with Obama now proclaiming that he has more experience than Palin - as if it matters if he does or not. She's the VP candidate, he's the candidate for President.

I'll say it again - Go ahead and describe your public service but to spit on another's? Have Obama or Biden said word one about her lack of experience? No. Two words - low class. Snipers will always do sniping, but the candidates?

We tried to watch some of Giuliani's and Palin's speeches but had to bail before my skin started peeling off. Giuliani said that if we fail in Iraq it means a victory for Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden. Horrifying, how they just repeat bald faced lies and everyone cheers. Do none of those people understand the Iraq war at all?

I read the transcript...

Palin said a victory in Iraq is now in sight. Um, who is saying that? Oh wait, the Republicans have been saying that every single fvcking day since we sent our citizens over there to die.

She said she'd be an advocate for special needs children and their families. You mean, like providing health care, classes, or other monetary assistance? Oh wait, no, gov't isn't supposed to do that, right, conservatives? Well then, what kind of advocating is she going to do?

"Al-Qaida terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ... he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?" I find it disgusting how she doesn't value our moral high ground, our justice process, our history of human rights.

She says Obama's plan would raise taxes but of course doesn't address for whom, or that if you make less than $250,000 your taxes would be cut. More bald faced lying.

I need a shower, and maybe a vacation away from here. Goody, I've got one planned.

BarTopDancer · 09-03-2008, 09:32 PM

VPM for CP.

scaeagles · 09-03-2008, 09:43 PM

The campaign is the candidate. Like I said, the campaign doesn't slam on her begin a small town mayor without approval from the candidate. What she said, though you find it tasteless, was a response to what the Obama campaign has been saying about her.

I won't comment on all you've mentioned, but you mock the mother of a special needs child because she says she'll be an advocate? That is pretty low.

Tenigma · 09-03-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'll say it again - Go ahead and describe your public service but to spit on another's? Have Obama or Biden said word one about her lack of experience?

Actually if I remember, initially someone from the Obama camp mentioned something about her not being qualified... but that was Friday on the day it was announced. Since then, they've stopped saying anything bad about Palin. In fact, Obama came out in strong support of the need to keep Palin's kids and family life out of it.

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-03-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

The campaign is the candidate. Like I said, the campaign doesn't slam on her begin a small town mayor without approval from the candidate. What she said, though you find it tasteless, was a response to what the Obama campaign has been saying about her.

I'll say it again - Snipers will always do sniping, but the candidates? Yes, the campaign do say low class things about each other, but the candidates do not. Except in the case of Palin, that is. (Tenigma is correct, Obama said that family attacks are off limits.)

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I won't comment on all you've mentioned, but you mock the mother of a special needs child because she says she'll be an advocate? That is pretty low.

I'll ask it again - What kind of advocating can a "small gov't" candidate do? I don't understand how you can call such an obvious question "low". If I ran for office on a "keep gov't out of our wallets" platform and then said "I support spending tax money on something I specifically care about, so give me your money", no matter the subject, it doesn't make any sense.

Motorboat Cruiser · 09-03-2008, 10:31 PM

I'm still amazed that she can she she was opposed to the "Bridge to Nowhere" with a straight face. That's rich.

Gemini Cricket · 09-03-2008, 10:47 PM

She was smug, her speech was petty and juvenile and she blew kisses to people in the crowd... uh, yeah... real presidential.
If we're talking gender, I could see Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Dole, Barbara Boxer, Kay Bailey Hutchison and Nancy Pelosi as vice-president or president. Palin? Nope, not so much.
Her speech pales in comparison to Obama's, even Biden's (and I am not a fan of his speech, either).
And carrying her son in her arms was too much.

Does she not realize that the GOP doesn't give a damn about her? She's being used. Can she not see that?

I counted like 4 people of color in the audience. They may have been ushers or security guards...

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09-03-2008, 08:45 PM	#102
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	To quote what I said in the McCain thread - It was clearly a barb related to them slamming on her experience or lack there of, particularly with Obama now proclaiming that he has more experience than Palin - as if it matters if he does or not. She's the VP candidate, he's the candidate for President. And WB - I think they started slamming on her as a mayor of a small town before she started slamming on him as a "community organizer". And to any extent she has aliented those people he was organizing, Obama (or his campaign) has alienated small town America by belittling her as mayor of a small town.....as if they don't matter.
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09-03-2008, 09:43 PM	#106
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	The campaign is the candidate. Like I said, the campaign doesn't slam on her begin a small town mayor without approval from the candidate. What she said, though you find it tasteless, was a response to what the Obama campaign has been saying about her. I won't comment on all you've mentioned, but you mock the mother of a special needs child because she says she'll be an advocate? That is pretty low.
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Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	I'm still amazed that she can she she was opposed to the "Bridge to Nowhere" with a straight face. That's rich.
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09-03-2008, 10:47 PM	#110
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	She was smug, her speech was petty and juvenile and she blew kisses to people in the crowd... uh, yeah... real presidential. If we're talking gender, I could see Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Dole, Barbara Boxer, Kay Bailey Hutchison and Nancy Pelosi as vice-president or president. Palin? Nope, not so much. Her speech pales in comparison to Obama's, even Biden's (and I am not a fan of his speech, either). And carrying her son in her arms was too much. Does she not realize that the GOP doesn't give a damn about her? She's being used. Can she not see that? I counted like 4 people of color in the audience. They may have been ushers or security guards...
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