All About McCain

[Ghoulish Delight]

It looks like Palin's got as firm a grasp on the economy as McCain does.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_124792.html

But hey, perhaps we should just be happy she didn't try to distract us by mentioning Iraq.

[scaeagles]

Newsweek debunking many Palin myths, even some discussed here.

[Strangler Lewis]

I could be wrong, but doesn't the Buchanan response simply repeat what Palin said on the subject? Maybe that's the best answer we can get. (And I know you wouldn't like it if she wore an Ahmadinejad button if he ever visited Washington.)

Also, I'm not sure that the response to the librarian issue is satisfactory. Perhaps our board librarians can tell us if getting asked such questions by one's mayor or university president is a sad reality of the job. Plus, after continuing in her job, the librarian was fired. Not convinced on that one.

[3894]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Perhaps our board librarians can tell us if getting asked such questions by one's mayor or university president is a sad reality of the job. Plus, after continuing in her job, the librarian was fired. Not convinced on that one.

I'm not a librarian but I voted on a tenure issue for the librarians at the University of Wisconsin and also sat on a review board which reinstated a fired librarian. At many university libraries, librarians can earn tenure, even though they mostly do not teach. Tenure is a license to tell the truth. Librarians need tenure to allow them to do their job, which, in part, is to put controversial materials on the shelves.

[scaeagles]

Tenure can also be a license to be lazy and do nothing. I had some tenured professors who thought that it was a license for academic ineptitude and/or dishonesty.

Depends on the individual.

[3894]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Tenure can also be a license to be lazy and do nothing. I had some tenured professors who thought that it was a license for academic ineptitude and/or dishonesty.

Depends on the individual.

How could you possibly judge academic ineptitude/dishonesty unless you have the qualifications to do so? We'll talk when you have a Ph.D.

Until then, you have no informed opinion.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by 3894

How could you possibly judge academic ineptitude/dishonesty unless you have the qualifications to do so? We'll talk when you have a Ph.D.

Until then, you have no informed opinion.

Since when does it take a Ph.D. to spot dishonesty?
Since when does an inept faculty member only reveal themselves to the elite?

Seems like most of the time they are the last to know.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by 3894

How could you possibly judge academic ineptitude/dishonesty unless you have the qualifications to do so? We'll talk when you have a Ph.D.

Until then, you have no informed opinion.

HA! The arrogance! "I'm not a librarian, but I vote on issues for librarians, blah, blah, blah". Please tell me your qualifications to vote on these issues. Have you studied library science? Or are you just "informed"?

While we're at it, please refrain, then, from expressing your opinion on the President, the war in Iraq, or any other such issue, because your opinion, by your own ridiculous definition, means absolutely nothing.

What incredible audicity.

[3894]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

HA! The arrogance! <snip!> Have you studied library science? Or are you just "informed"?

It's boring but here goes. The vote was whether or not to continue tenure for librarians. The committee was comprised of tenured people from a wide array of disciplines. The issue was tenure and its meaning.

Tenure allows librarians to shelve books on evolution and still keep their jobs, for example. Too many librarians have been the victims of witch hunts.

While we're at it, please refrain, then, from expressing your opinion on the President, the war in Iraq, or any other such issue, because your opinion, by your own ridiculous definition, means absolutely nothing.

What incredible audicity.

Not audacity, just reality-based, scaeagles. Unless you have a background I am not aware of, you do not have the academic qualifications or experience to pass judgement on the competence or intentions of tenured faculty. You can say whether you liked them or agreed with them but that's it.

When I say something outrageous about whatever you do for a living, I will listen.

Now, back to something much more interesting: Sarah Palin. Time has summed her up so well:

Sarah Palin thinks she is a better American than you because she comes from a small town, and a superior human being because she isn't a journalist and never lived in Washington and likes to watch her kids play hockey. Although Palin praised John McCain in her acceptance speech as a man who puts the good of his country ahead of partisan politics, McCain pretty much proved the opposite with his selection of a running mate whose main asset is her ability to reignite the culture wars. So maybe Governor Palin does represent everything that is good and fine about America, as she herself maintains. But spare us, please, any talk about how she is a tough fiscal conservative.

The rest of the article is here.

[scaeagles]

Well, 3894, when you show me that your education and experience includes political science, running for office, holding the office of senator, representative, mayor, President, then please feel free to express your political opinion. In fact, most journalists and pundits should then also withhold comment. What are the qualifications of the person who wrote that opinion piece of Time? Do they have degrees in psychology, or is Palin's superiority complex obvious enough that they can state those opinions with such veracity? Or because you agree with them it's OK? Perhaps they are psychic and can see into the deepest recesses of her mind. Yeah, that's it.

My statement still stands. You are perhaps the most arrogant and condescending poster here. How dare you suggest - to anyone! - that it requires a certain degree or qualification to criticize what you view as ineptitude or laziness.