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[JWBear]

iSm... Hillary Clinton has the exact same position on gay marriage as Obama.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by JWBear

iSm... Hillary Clinton has the exact same position on gay marriage as Obama.

Then I likely would not have voted for her either.

In California, we have the blessing of our election not matter to the presidential candidates. So we are not bombarded with ads (which I wouldn't see anyway, since I don't watch TV) and they generally don't bother to campaign here.

As such, I have limited opportunities to hear them speak. If I'd seen Hillary speak about her stance on gay marriage rights, she would have lost my support then and there. I think I assumed as much about both candidates, but hearing it from their lips puts a chill in me that I cannot shake.


If Obama tries not to have his religious beliefs dominate or determine his stance on this matter, he needs to try harder. Because right now, he fails.