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Old 09-26-2008, 01:03 PM   #101
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Makes me glad my Mom hasn't called me yet. Although I am very surprised she hasn't! I can hardly wait for the " You didn't pull all your money out of the bank?!! You'll lose it all!!" conversation. Sigh, it's awful hard to teach them anything at this age.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:19 PM   #102
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My mother called me. The conversation went like this:

Mom: "If those Democrats don't agree to pass the bail-out, I'm going to lose all my money!"

JW: "Mom, it's the Republicans in Congress that are holding it up."

Mom: "That's not true. The News (meaning Fox News) said it was the Democrats. If they don't agree to it, the stock market will crash!"

JW: "No mom, it's the Republicans in the House."

Mom: "Are you sure? Why would the Democrats want to pass it? They all want us to be communists."


<<Sigh>> She drank the Cool-Aid decades ago....

If the Dems want to pass it they can pass it.....they have a majority, no Senate Republican would dare to fillibuster and the President is eager to sign.

What's stopping them?
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:20 PM   #103
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The fact that it's a terrible solution?
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:21 PM   #104
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Where are you getting there's a filibuster-proof majority in either the House or Senate? Um, there isn't, or lots would have been done instead of 2 completely squandered years of NOTHING.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:26 PM   #105
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There's no filibuster in the House and there isn't much risk of a filibuster in the Senate.

The reason the Democrats won't pass it completely on their own is that no matter what solution is done (and regardless of whether ultimately the right or wrong thing) it will be generally unpopular in the short term. If they do it all alone it will become a campaign issue.

So, they need the cover of bipartisanship so that it doesn't become a weapon in the last month of the 435 congressional campaigns going on right now. And that is also why, unless there is extremely broad bipartisan support McCain and Obama will both probably find a way to not vote on it.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:28 PM   #106
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:31 PM   #107
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Where are you getting there's a filibuster-proof majority in either the House or Senate? Um, there isn't, or lots would have been done instead of 2 completely squandered years of NOTHING.
No one is threatening filibuster. The Dems can do this if they want; but like Alex stated, they are afraid.

You can blame it on the Republicans, but asking them to go along with this is, to many of them, asking them to completely throw away their basic principles.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:03 PM   #108
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First of all, I'm APPLAUDING the Republicans for the first time in decades for objecting to this socialist move on principal, or what appears to be on principal.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:06 PM   #109
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First of all, I'm APPLAUDING the Republicans for the first time in decades for objecting to this socialist move on principal, or what appears to be on principal.
iSm made a funny.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:33 PM   #110
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