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Old 09-29-2008, 07:29 PM   #1
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I don't think this is close at all anymore. I think Obama has this in the bag, and honestly, the longer an economic package (if any) takes to pass and the American people are in a borderline economic panic state, the longer he will continue to increase his lead.

The rhetoric coming out of Pelosi's office, which is completely disingenuous, will continue to grab press attention and play to the American people.

However, McCains position at present can in no way be completely balmed on the dems. He's looked weak recently and the dems are doing a great job blaming republicans in general. He needs to start campaigning or it is all over.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:00 PM   #2
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However, McCains position at present can in no way be completely balmed on the dems. He's looked weak recently and the dems are doing a great job blaming republicans in general. He needs to start campaigning or it is all over.
Wow, an early concession speech from sceagles?

As a point, McCain made a huge issue about how he was going to postpone his campaign, made a huge deal about going to DC, and then this thing doesn't pass. He might go around blaming Pelosi and Obama, but it just makes him look bad.

It's not really all his fault; Republicans in a close race that are running this year are voting against it. But it still makes him look petty.
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:01 PM   #3
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He might go around blaming Pelosi and Obama, but it just makes him look bad.
Especially when 60% of the Democrats voted for the bailout bill, but only 33% of Republicans did. Jeebus, John.

As the great de-regulator, you would have been badly enough off with just the economic crisis of 2008 ... but you had to make a spectacle of running to Washington and dropping everything (except Katie Couric) to solve the economic crisis ... and the most leadership you have to show for it is only one-third of your party supporting your solution, compared to nearly two-thirds of the opposition.


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Especially when 60% of the Democrats voted for the bailout bill, but only 33% of Republicans did. Jeebus, John.

Hold on....why, then were the republicans blamed when McCains bill in regard to reigning in Freddie and Fannie failed? Didn't get out of committee, but MOST of the republicans voted to get it out of committee and MOST of the dems voted to kill it.

If the dems wanted it to pass, there is nothing the republicans could have done to stop it. Nothing. They even have a guaranteed signature from Bush. They don't want it to pass.
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It's not really all his fault; Republicans in a close race that are running this year are voting against it. But it still makes him look petty.

I believe that Pelosi gave her divisive speech on the floor prior to the vote for the specific purpose of wanting republicans to vote against it. The more I think about it, the more I believe she (and dem politicians in general) want this to continue until the election.
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I don't think this is close at all anymore. I think Obama has this in the bag, and honestly, the longer an economic package (if any) takes to pass and the American people are in a borderline economic panic state, the longer he will continue to increase his lead.

The rhetoric coming out of Pelosi's office, which is completely disingenuous, will continue to grab press attention and play to the American people.

However, McCains position at present can in no way be completely balmed on the dems. He's looked weak recently and the dems are doing a great job blaming republicans in general. He needs to start campaigning or it is all over.
I may just print that out and paste it on my wall until November rolls around.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:50 PM   #7
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I find it humorous that the cons are decrying Pelosi's partisan speech, while their own candidate took the situation for a very cynical ride (that backfired) last week. At the same time, I think Pelosi really didn't need to give the speech she did. I think the results would have been the same, but now the Repub's are blaming her instead of the real reason, which is they want to be re-elected and they know the public is very much against this bailout.
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