Yes, we can.

[innerSpaceman]

Apples (from the Riley Farm) and Oranges. A bill not making it out of committee has absolutely nothing to do with a situation where Republicans desperately seeking reelection won't go along with their party mandate when a bill is on the floor.

In fact, more Democrats would have voted for the bill had not so many Republicans voted against it. Midway through the voting, the word went out to the Dems from their leadership that they could vote their conscience, since Republicans were not supporting their party line.

So the only thing Pelosi had to do with the result was perhaps that less Democrats voted for the bailout than would have otherwise. She had zero to do with Republicans voting two thirds against it.



I fail to see the applicability of your comparison, and I call official shenanigans on you, Sir.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

In fact, more Democrats would have voted for the bill had not so many Republicans voted against it.

HA! A claim of shenanigans from someone using how the republicans voted to justify the dems not passing it? THAT'S funny. That's Kerry-esque.

I see your shenanigans and raise you two more, sir!