Yes, we can.

JWBear · 10-13-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by flippyshark

Minorities and people in poor neighborhoods have historically been given extremely shabby treatment at the polls.

And Republicans will go to great lengths to keep it that way. Smears and lies, again, being the favorite tactic of the Republican Party.

scaeagles · 10-13-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

And Republicans will go to great lengths to keep it that way. Smears and lies, again, being the favorite tactic of the Republican Party.

Voter fraud is one of the favorite tactics of dems....cheating, smearing, lieing....all democrat party strategies.

wendybeth · 10-13-2008, 08:50 AM

Leo must have read the latest poll numbers.

(I know I commit voter fraud on a daily basis. I get up and the first thing I say to myself is "Wendy, have you committed your voter fraud today?" I have to remind myself to stay on task, because I'm so busy having abortions and sneaking terrorists across the border. Being a Dem is hard work!)

Moonliner · 10-13-2008, 09:01 AM

Vote fraud is a very serious issue, even more so with all these ****ing electronic voting systems. They raise the specter of a stolen election like nothing else in the history of our democracy. I'm fairly sure I don't want our election process to become one of who the best hackers support. Especially since BOTH parties have been clearly shown to have members not above stealing an election.

JWBear · 10-13-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Vote fraud is a very serious issue, even more so with all these ****ing electronic voting systems. They raise the specter of a stolen election like nothing else in the history of our democracy. I'm fairly sure I don't want our election process to become one of who the best hackers support. Especially since BOTH parties have been clearly shown to have members not above stealing an election.

Fortunately, that tactic only works when the vote is close. If the final tally from the electronic machines is very far off of what the polls (including exit polls), then it becomes too obvious. they will try it, though.

Who is the biggest manufacturer of electronic voting machines? Debolt.
Which brand of voting machine seems to have the most instances of changing Democratic votes to Republican ones - in error, of course (wink, wink)? Debolt.
Which party does Debolt contribute the most money to? The Republican Party.

Hmmmmmm.... No, there couldn't be any relation there...

CoasterMatt · 10-13-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Who is the biggest manufacturer of electronic voting machines? Debolt.
Which brand of voting machine seems to have the most instances of changing Democratic votes to Republican ones - in error, of course (wink, wink)? Debolt.
Which party does Debolt contribute the most money to? The Republican Party.

Hmmmmmm.... No, there couldn't be any relation there...

Do you mean 'Diebold'?

JWBear · 10-13-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CoasterMatt

Do you mean 'Diebold'?

That too...

JWBear · 10-13-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Voter fraud is one of the favorite tactics of dems....cheating, smearing, lieing....all democrat party strategies.

Actually... In the last two presidential elections there was vastly more voter fraud (and blatant voter suppression) on the part of the Republicans. The old "Your friend shoplifted, so you have to let me commit armed robbery" defense is old, tired, and just plain indefensible.

The massive amounts of dirty tricks, lies, corruption, hypocrisy, and just plain nastiness on the part of the Republicans over the last eight years - vastly outnumbering the Democrats by orders of magnitude - have made me lose any trust or support for Republicans I ever had. I've voted for candidates from both parties equally in the past. No more. I've moved from a moderate to a staunch Democrat now. You can thank your party for that.

scaeagles · 10-13-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Actually... In the last two presidential elections there was vastly more voter fraud (and blatant voter suppression) on the part of the Republicans. The old "Your friend shoplifted, so you have to let me commit armed robbery" defense is old, tired, and just plain indefensible.

Excuse me.....excuse me. No, no, no. I brought up a point, and I believe it was YOU, sir, that offered up a deflection away from crooked dems to make it a republican thing in this context. YOU are the one using the defense that you so condescendingly accuse me of.

JWBear · 10-13-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Excuse me.....excuse me. No, no, no. I brought up a point, and I believe it was YOU, sir, that offered up a deflection away from crooked dems to make it a republican thing in this context. YOU are the one using the defense that you so condescendingly accuse me of.

And you would be right... If the accusation you made was true.

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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	Vote fraud is a very serious issue, even more so with all these ****ing electronic voting systems. They raise the specter of a stolen election like nothing else in the history of our democracy. I'm fairly sure I don't want our election process to become one of who the best hackers support. Especially since BOTH parties have been clearly shown to have members not above stealing an election. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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