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innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 07:55 AM

Didn't finish reading, but have to ask ... scaeagles, just how is it that Obama's Fiat-passed tax plan (um, the president has no power to order any such thing) going to give money to people who pay no federal income taxes? Are they going to be sent checks? Or will cash payments come via secret service agents at their doors?

BTW, like it or not, wealth redistribution is a very popular idea. And cries of socialism of any kind ring rather hollow right now. It's clear to America we roll over and become a socialist nation when it suits the very rich who gamble recklessly with everybody else's money ... and now those same "everybody" want a little socialism of their own.

Snowflake · 10-16-2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

The WSJ link I posted lays out exactly what his plan entails. Either it does or it doesn't. If you dispute what it says, fine.

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is? A tax cut means you pay less taxes. Obama now defines it as giving money to people who have paid no fdederal income taxes.

Jeez read the comments, yikes, Americans at their finest.

Snowflake · 10-16-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

"And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance... Almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr," he said.

SFW and kinda disturbing, too.

Spoiler:

innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is?

GC already pointed out what you apparently missed, but I'm repeating it because I'm astounded by what a tin ear you seem to have. Apparently, Joe the Plumber's ears are equally tin (or perhaps copper would be more appropriate). In any event, he clearly wasn't ready for the prime time suddenly foisted upon him, and did not take careful consideration to how his words would sound .... or, alternatively, he's an unabashed racist.

But, um, comparing Obama to a tap-dancing Sammy Davis, Jr. is a fracking racist remark.

Joe's an azshat for saying it ... and I'm rather shocked you simply glossed over it, scaeagles, and professed not to understand what was racist about Joe's remarks.

Moonliner · 10-16-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But, um, comparing Obama to a tap-dancing Sammy Davis, Jr. is a fracking racist remark.

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

How in the hell is that racist?

innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Joe's not making $250,000. So how does his situation apply to Obama's proposal? He's bringing up a hypothetical and then blasting Obama for it.

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Originally Posted by Cool Considerate Men - 1776

But don't forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor ... and that is why they will follow us, to the right, ever to the right, never to the left, forever to the right.

In other words, most people are fracking idiots ... and hence the unfathomable popularity of conservativism.

innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

Yeah, whatdya know? -- all the ones I think of are black. Maybe I betta shut the fvck up so's I don't come off like a RACIST when making personal comparisons to the first black presidential candidate.

JWBear · 10-16-2008, 08:31 AM

Fred Astaire, Ginger Rodgers...

Moonliner · 10-16-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yeah, whatdya know? -- all the ones I think of are black. Maybe I betta shut the fvck up so's I don't come off like a RACIST when making personal comparisons to the first black presidential candidate.

You are letting color dictate your speech. Because Sammy was black you think he cannot be compared to Obama. Joe was color blind and just compaired a tap dancing politician to a real tap dancer. So who's the racist here?

Snowflake · 10-16-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

How in the hell is that racist?

Gents
Fred Astaire
Gene Kelly
The Nicholas Brothers

Ladies
Ann Miller
Ruby Keeler
Ginger Rogers

10-16-2008, 07:55 AM	#381
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Didn't finish reading, but have to ask ... scaeagles, just how is it that Obama's Fiat-passed tax plan (um, the president has no power to order any such thing) going to give money to people who pay no federal income taxes? Are they going to be sent checks? Or will cash payments come via secret service agents at their doors? BTW, like it or not, wealth redistribution is a very popular idea. And cries of socialism of any kind ring rather hollow right now. It's clear to America we roll over and become a socialist nation when it suits the very rich who gamble recklessly with everybody else's money ... and now those same "everybody" want a little socialism of their own.
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