Yes, we can.

[scaeagles]

I don't think I was pwned at all. If it's life, which I understand you aren't conceding, wouldn't it then follow that it's human life?

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I don't think I was pwned at all. If it's life, which I understand you aren't conceding, wouldn't it then follow that it's human life?

Human life, or humanish as Stephen Colbert might say. I still don't know that that gets you to personhood for due process protections under Roe. But even if it does, so what. As I've said before, Roe is an impediment to the discussion. The fact that an activity may enjoy constitutional protection does not make it a moral one. The fact that it does not enjoy constitutional protection does not make its prohibition moral or rational. Being pro-choice, I see nothing wrong with saying that life--or lifeishness--begins at conception and still adopting a pragmatic Roe-like framework on the issue.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

I still don't know that that gets you to personhood for due process protections under Roe.

Scalia even says he doesn't think the founders intended for the unborn to have the same rights as the born. He opposes Roe for other reasons.

But ISM, of course I know life isn't limited to human life. But since each species by definition gives birth to its own kind, if it is life, it would be human life.

[Snowflake]

I miss Alex and Tengima!