A Prop 8 challenge for swankers - Page 23

Andrew · 10-30-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

An interesting article about the limbo the same-sex couples who married in CA will be in if Prop 8 passes.

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Attorney General Jerry Brown has stated that in his opinion the measure does not invalidate marriages performed when they were legal. The difference between this and the '04 marriages authorized by Mayor Newsom is that they were declared to have never been legal, while these are definitely legal right now.

Morrigoon · 10-30-2008, 10:12 AM

Well that's a relief, because the way the amendment is written, "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California," seems to indicate that the state would no longer recognize those marriages.

Morrigoon · 10-30-2008, 10:18 AM

Ooh, I like this quote: (from Wikipedia)

"Marriage is ... something more than a civil contract subject to regulation by the state; it is a fundamental right of free men.... Legislation infringing such rights must be based upon more than prejudice and must be free from oppressive discrimination to comply with the constitutional requirements of due process and equal protection of the laws." - CA Supreme Court, 1948

innerSpaceman · 10-30-2008, 12:36 PM

This is not going away, no matter what the result of the election is.

I believe the lawsuit challenging Prop 8's legality to remove fundamental rights from the California Constitution will be successful (if, after Tuesday, it becomes necessary).

Morrigoon · 10-30-2008, 12:54 PM

Of course it's not going away, people, once granted their rights, are not just going to give up and go back to the way things were. But it's going to cost the state millions if the fight has to continue. And I'd much rather this not have to escalate to the Federal level at this time... I don't think the country's ready to do right by it.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-30-2008, 01:12 PM

Gah, I can't turn it off. Pulling into a parking lot at lunch there was someone with a sign with their back to me. I couldn't see the sign, so as I sat there waiting for the left turn light to change, I felt myself getting tenser, gripping the steering wheel thinking, "That better be a "No" sign. Grrrrrrrr."

The light changed, I turned.

"$5 footlongs at Subway"

innerSpaceman · 10-30-2008, 01:13 PM

Oh, there's a gay joke in there somewhere ... but I'm too tired.

BarTopDancer · 10-30-2008, 01:39 PM

I'm really tempted to print out "don't take away rights" flyers and put them on cars with Yes on 8 stickers.

Kevy Baby · 10-30-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I'm really tempted to print out "don't take away rights" flyers and put them on cars with Yes on 8 stickers.

Nah, just do like I do: firebomb the car.

BarTopDancer · 10-30-2008, 08:27 PM

New No on 8 ad.

Primetime My Name is Earl placement.

10-30-2008, 10:12 AM	#222
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Well that's a relief, because the way the amendment is written, "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California," seems to indicate that the state would no longer recognize those marriages. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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10-30-2008, 10:18 AM	#223
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Ooh, I like this quote: (from Wikipedia) "Marriage is ... something more than a civil contract subject to regulation by the state; it is a fundamental right of free men.... Legislation infringing such rights must be based upon more than prejudice and must be free from oppressive discrimination to comply with the constitutional requirements of due process and equal protection of the laws." - CA Supreme Court, 1948 __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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10-30-2008, 12:36 PM	#224
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	This is not going away, no matter what the result of the election is. I believe the lawsuit challenging Prop 8's legality to remove fundamental rights from the California Constitution will be successful (if, after Tuesday, it becomes necessary).
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10-30-2008, 12:54 PM	#225
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Of course it's not going away, people, once granted their rights, are not just going to give up and go back to the way things were. But it's going to cost the state millions if the fight has to continue. And I'd much rather this not have to escalate to the Federal level at this time... I don't think the country's ready to do right by it. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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10-30-2008, 01:12 PM	#226
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Gah, I can't turn it off. Pulling into a parking lot at lunch there was someone with a sign with their back to me. I couldn't see the sign, so as I sat there waiting for the left turn light to change, I felt myself getting tenser, gripping the steering wheel thinking, "That better be a "No" sign. Grrrrrrrr." The light changed, I turned. "$5 footlongs at Subway" __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ Last edited by Ghoulish Delight : 10-30-2008 at 01:12 PM. Reason: I bet the guy was really confused when I kicked his sign over and screamed "STOP TAKING PEOLE'S RIGHTS AWAY!!"
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10-30-2008, 01:13 PM	#227
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oh, there's a gay joke in there somewhere ... but I'm too tired.
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10-30-2008, 01:39 PM	#228
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	I'm really tempted to print out "don't take away rights" flyers and put them on cars with Yes on 8 stickers. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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10-30-2008, 08:27 PM	#230
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	New No on 8 ad. Primetime My Name is Earl placement. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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