A Prop 8 challenge for swankers

BarTopDancer · 11-06-2008, 12:08 PM

If the majority of Yes voters were Jews would you invoke the "k" word?

Inexcusable, unacceptable and frankly the apology really has no meaning after so many other inappropriate comments that were later apologized for. Actions speak louder than words, and while it's easier to ask for forgiveness then permission it gets harder and harder to grant forgiveness for the same thing over and over and over again.

I'm about as equally disgusted with the uses of the N word as I am with people who voted Yes. And saddened that someone I know could actually use that word in that way.

bewitched · 11-06-2008, 12:23 PM

As a member of LoT who has been here almost from the beginning (albeit infrequently until lately)...I am not well known by most of you, nor do I know most of you terribly well.

I don't know iSm's past behavior well, nor do I particularly want to be inundated with past details. Clearly, he has offended and retracted on more than one occasion, causing anger and hurt. Bigotry and hatred (whether in word or action) is inexcusable in any form. Having said that, iSm has apologized...several times. He cannot take back his words, even if they are physically erased. It seems that in the spirit of wanting to celebrate love and acceptance for all, we should try to graciously accept his apology at face value. That doesn't mean we accept what we said as okay, it only means that we accept his regret (and perhaps shame) for his words.

Almost 2 pages have been spent vilifying iSm's words. Maybe it is time to move along and return to vilifying the bigger injustice wrought by yesterday's vote.

11-06-2008, 12:08 PM	#1
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	If the majority of Yes voters were Jews would you invoke the "k" word? Inexcusable, unacceptable and frankly the apology really has no meaning after so many other inappropriate comments that were later apologized for. Actions speak louder than words, and while it's easier to ask for forgiveness then permission it gets harder and harder to grant forgiveness for the same thing over and over and over again. I'm about as equally disgusted with the uses of the N word as I am with people who voted Yes. And saddened that someone I know could actually use that word in that way. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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11-06-2008, 12:23 PM	#2
bewitched 101% Yummy! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I know Kung Fu. Posts: 1,413	As a member of LoT who has been here almost from the beginning (albeit infrequently until lately)...I am not well known by most of you, nor do I know most of you terribly well. I don't know iSm's past behavior well, nor do I particularly want to be inundated with past details. Clearly, he has offended and retracted on more than one occasion, causing anger and hurt. Bigotry and hatred (whether in word or action) is inexcusable in any form. Having said that, iSm has apologized...several times. He cannot take back his words, even if they are physically erased. It seems that in the spirit of wanting to celebrate love and acceptance for all, we should try to graciously accept his apology at face value. That doesn't mean we accept what we said as okay, it only means that we accept his regret (and perhaps shame) for his words. Almost 2 pages have been spent vilifying iSm's words. Maybe it is time to move along and return to vilifying the bigger injustice wrought by yesterday's vote. __________________ ~Whitney Wondering about the future of Ellington Woodard's punk@ss sh!t.
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