Yes, we can.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Alex

Just going in circles of course, but I have no problem with "a dialog." This is not a dialog or even really an opportunity to start one.

I disagree there there in no opportunity here.

"since I hope someday you'll be a preacher that's a bit less of an ass I'd like you to officiate my wedding."

I don't think that Obama is that naive.

Really, what is the alternative here? That he choose a mainstream religious leader that supports gay marriage? Is there an abundance of those that I'm unaware of? But, assuming one exists that carries even a fraction of the same influence that Warren does, let's say that Obama chooses this person. Those who already support gay marriage might be pleased, but it further alienates Obama from the opposition that he is trying to reach. There is no advantage that I can see because the divide between the two sides only widens.

Of course, I'm still peeved that religion is being brought into a civil governmental event to begin with (and yes, I know it hardly the only religion stuff that will be on display that day).

On this at least, we agree.