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Old 03-26-2009, 12:01 PM   #1
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Parents are understandably miffed.
I don't know that I even buy into "understandably miffed."
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:49 PM   #2
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I don't know that I even buy into "understandably miffed."
I can understand that much. I wouldn't go so far as to say "justifiably" miffed, but understandably. I certainly won't fault someone who just lost a daughter for having a knee-jerk irrational emotional reaction. It's the follow through of pointless continued public indignation that baffles me.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:53 PM   #3
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Um, I think this policeman needs some therapy and to be relieved of his job. Obviously the motto there is not "To Protect and to Serve"

Officer drew gun during traffic stop of NFL player outside hospital


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The Dallas Police Department confirmed Thursday that an officer drew a gun on NFL running back Ryan Moats and his wife after he stopped them to give them a ticket even as they begged to hurry to the bedside of their dying mother.

As he rushed his family to the hospital, Ryan Moats, 26, rolled through a red light. A Dallas police officer pulled their SUV over outside the emergency room at the Baylor Regional Medical Center at Plano.

“He was pointing a gun at me as soon as I got out of the car,” said his wife, Tamishia Moats. “It was the weirdest feeling because I’ve never had a gun pointed at me before under those circumstances.”

Seconds later, Ryan Moats and his wife explained that her mother was dying inside the hospital.

“You really want to go through this right now?” Moats pleaded. “My mother-in-law is dying. Right now!”

A Dallas police spokesman said that Officer Robert Powell told his commanders that he drew his gun, but did not point it. Lt. Andy Harvey said it is not unusual for officers to draw a gun without pointing it. Drawing a gun is not unusual in traffic stops where officers feel threatened.
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Powell, 25, spent long minutes writing Moats a ticket and threatened him with arrest during the incident.

“I can screw you over,” the officer told Moats. “I’d rather not do that.”
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Another hospital staffer came out and spoke with a Plano police officer who had arrived.

“Hey, that’s the nurse,” the Plano officer told Powell. “She said that the mom’s dying right now, and she’s wanting to know if they can get him up there before she dies.”

“All right,” Powell replied. “I’m almost done.”

As Moats signed the ticket, Powell continued his lecture.

“Attitude’s everything,” he said. “All you had to do is stop, tell me what was going on. More than likely, I would have let you go.”

It had been about 13 minutes.

Moats and Collinsworth’s father went into the hospital, where they found Collinsworth had died, with her daughter at her side.

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Old 03-26-2009, 01:03 PM   #4
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Um, I think this policeman needs some therapy and to be relieved of his job. Obviously the motto there is not "To Protect and to Serve"
I hope he's repaid the same courtesy when he loses a loved one.
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:07 PM   #5
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I hope he's repaid the same courtesy when he loses a loved one.
I'd like to see the dashboard footage of this stop and have independent verification as to the time of the stop and his mothers passing before passing judgement.

I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:26 PM   #6
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I'd like to see the dashboard footage of this stop and have independent verification as to the time of the stop and his mothers passing before passing judgement.

I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.
I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behaviour of the police officer was and is appaling.
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:34 PM   #7
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I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behaviour of the police officer was and is appaling.
After watching the video:

Running a red light. Failure to stop. Aggressive behavior, Yelling. These things tend to upset officers. I see plenty of blame on both sides.
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I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behavior of the police officer was and is appalling.
On the surface it might seem that way. Personally, I would have to see the video.

Yes, some cops do overreact. But cops also get a LOT of people claiming that they are rushing to a dieing relative, or some other "excusable" reason for running a red light, speeding, etc.




OK, I watched (without audio) the first couple of minutes of the video.
  1. The driver continued through SEVERAL red lights and stop signs without stopping
  2. The driver had the cop following him with lights on for at least a full minute
  3. The driver and passenger jumped out of the car and were in a frantic mode
With the three points above, the cop was justified (in my mind) to at least pull his gun.
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:06 PM   #9
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I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.
I used to work at a place frequented by NFL players. Each and every one of them was a major prick. Obviously, not every NFL player is an asshole, but I am comfortable saying most of them are.
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