The Jazz Kitchen Bill Cluster Fornication

[innerSpaceman]

Except when did the 'standard' tip go to 20%?


I have no problem with that change ... except that now if I want to leave a better than average tip, it's got to be at least 25% ... and fully one-quarter the price of the meal seems very out-of-line for a gratuity.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

SM, I see your point about better service being expected in better restaurants, but I don't agree. I'm no more particular in a fine dining establishment than I am at a diner.

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

*This does not apply to anyone reading LoT.

You may not be more particular, but most other people very much are.

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I've been known to refuse to pay the level of "included gratuity" if the service is substandard.

And I fully support/endorse that philosophy. All I'm saying is that the service was so poor you feel you need to ding the server on the tip, you should also tell the manager.

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

Has someone suggested this snafu was deliberate?

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I suggested that the money may have been lifted. There was enough cash sitting around on the table with no one directly watching it and the cash was mis-handled by the server (combining all of the cash even though the bills were separate) for that to happen.

I meant to ask if someone had suggested one of us had lifted the cash. Sorry for not being clear.

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Is it safe to post my address here?

Absolutely not! (I'm quite serious)

Originally Posted by Alex

Those guys who open the cab door for you at Vegas casinos. Because doing so makes me feel like a whale (the good kind, not the kind I am).

I don't get it. What is the good kind of whale?

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

when did the 'standard' tip go to 20%?

Even back in the days that I was waiting tables (over 13 years ago), the "standard" tip was a range of 15 to 20 percent. So I can't say I find it surprising to hear that has nudged up a bit.

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On a side note, have restaurants stopped automatically adding gratuity to large parties? Did something happen to make them change that policy? It seemed ubiquitous not too long ago, but now I've encountered two unrelated dining establishments in the past week where I know for certain this policy has changed.

(Yeah, I know two does not a trend make.)