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 The program and procedure I had the chance to see involved a transman who deliberately got his forearms tattooed in tribal patterns so when it was removed and grafted elsewhere, he had an illustrated willy !! ![]() 
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		 I once read Ray Bradbury's The Illustrated Willy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I lived with a transman in college.   He started transitioning when we were living together, it was an amazing process to watch.  Although actually his gender was a "butch", as his concept was that there are more than two genders.  However, he went by the male pronoun   And he married a femmy woman!   Also legal, I believe, in California. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I've known a number of transgendered people of all types - MTF, FTM, surgery, not surgery, considered "homosexual" after, considered "heterosexual" after.  Most I couldn't have imagined in their societially proscribed gender.  One I had a real struggle with, because it seemed more about being edgy and kinkier-than-thou, but I didn't know him that well and it wasn't really my business.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			As for why they're all lumped in together - because to the outside world it's all the same deviant sexual behavior. The lumping together comes more from an outside view, I think, driving the various groups to combine forces. Strength in numbers, and all that. Plus, the transgendered will probably be the last of the LGBT group to be accepted. Their numbers are too few, and too few can identify with them. If gender is no longer an obstacle to marriage, jobs, housing, etc, then many of the legal hurdles the transgendered face will be addressed. 
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