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Old 12-22-2009, 02:24 PM   #871
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Most of the action is in part 3. The ice dumping is at ~5:30 in the 3rd clip, and it was a small coffee cup, not a champagne bucket.
And apparently it was filled with whisky.

Those clips remind me of the days when guests on talk shows had quite a lot more time to talk. These days, it's two minutes, during which the host usually does most of the talking.

I love both Shelley and Oliver on screen. Winters seems like she would have been annoying as hell in real life, and I would never have been able to keep up with Reed, who probably drank more before breakfast than I will in my entire life.

FWIW, Reed's observations about women's liberation sound almost w2ord for word like my own dad at that time.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:26 PM   #872
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I was thinking the same thing. That was definitely from the 90 minute days.

Of course, the show truly went to sh*t when it left New York.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:49 PM   #873
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Those clips remind me of the days when guests on talk shows had quite a lot more time to talk. These days, it's two minutes, during which the host usually does most of the talking.
That's one reason Craig Ferguson is the only one I watch anymore. He's still mostly constrained by the 8 minute spot but he actually converses with his guests much of the time rather than just setting up the clip or pre-coordinated joke.

Plus, an entire show using puppets for everything but the guests (it was very much a mixed bag but I'm glad they tried it).

The great reminder is a show that is (or what) on Hulu of an old New York late night show (can't remember the name and can't get to Hulu at work) where the host and guest just went until they ran out of things to talk about and then the channel went off the air for the night.
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I love Craig Ferguson!
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Winters vs. Reed

Hmm. Awkward clip to watch.

1. Reed was a pompous but eloquent windbag.

2. Winters was being rude and a spotlight stealer.

3. I like her acting most of the time.

4. He has a special place in my heart for a certain scene in Women in Love.

5. I never understood the 'sit and wait on the couch while the next guest talks' concept of the Carson show.

6. His reaction made her look silly but on the whole they both were being dildos.

7. You can tell it took Carson by surprise too because it took him awhile to think of something witty to say.
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That's one reason Craig Ferguson is the only one I watch anymore. He's still mostly constrained by the 8 minute spot but he actually converses with his guests much of the time rather than just setting up the clip or pre-coordinated joke.

Plus, an entire show using puppets for everything but the guests (it was very much a mixed bag but I'm glad they tried it).

The great reminder is a show that is (or what) on Hulu of an old New York late night show (can't remember the name and can't get to Hulu at work) where the host and guest just went until they ran out of things to talk about and then the channel went off the air for the night.
Joel Franklin?
David Susskind?
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:34 PM   #877
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David Susskind was the man.

Only nine episodes on Hulu but I found all the ones I watched pretty interesting, particularly Jerry Lewis. This one with Mary Tyler Moore in the first segment was interesting because a psychic was brought on while she was still on stage and MTM was obviously uncomfortable with the whole thing. But it was fun to watch almost everything the psychic said (mostly about the upcoming 1966 presidential election) was completely wrong (unless I've forgotten about Mitt Romney's dad getting the Republican nomination and Robert Kennedy being president).

And looking at Wikipedia I see it was only in his first few years that he was able to go as long as he wanted, then they started syndicating.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:47 PM   #878
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I hate scanning this thread. There was about 30 seconds where I thought Wait, Craig Ferguson's dead?
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Quick aside on talk shows - Kevin Pollak's Chat Show video podcast (on iTunes and YouTube) is him and a guest for two hours just talking about the guest's careers. I got addicted to these and quickly went through the ones involving actors and comedians that I like. Highly recommended for those that hate the standard talk show BS.
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