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sleepyjeff · 02-04-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Was Desmond really on the plane or was he jumping through time and ended up on the planet for a few moments.

Usually Desmonds jumps thru time have only been to places he has been to in the past.....so he either was:

1) On the plane all the way from Sydney to LA
2) Never on the plane.
3) On the plane in Jack's mind only.
4) We(and Jack) witnessed more than one alternate flight 815....one with Desmond and one without(perhaps this has something to do with Charlie)

or

5) Desmond now has a new skill

Speaking of Desmond.....last we heard of him he swore off the whole Island affair but was warned by Hawking that his part wasn't finished.

Since then we have not seen Desmond but Hawking's plan to explode the H bomb was carried out; which leads me to believe that her plan extends beyond the H-bomb and that Desmond does indeed have a part to play

BarTopDancer · 02-04-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

but Hawking's plan to explode the H bomb was carried out

We assume we did, but you know what happens when we assume.

How do we really know the bomb went off? What proof do we have?

After 5 years of LOST I don't consider the alternate timelines, alternate universes or Juliet saying "it worked" confirmation.

sleepyjeff · 02-04-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

We assume we did, but you know what happens when we assume.

How do we really know the bomb went off? What proof do we have?

Good point....perhaps it didn't go off(but what proof do we have that it didn't)

Perhaps what we are witnessing is what happens if the bomb denonates(plane?) and what happens if it does not??? Kind of a Schrodingers Cat exercise.....maybe the whole point of LOST is to answer the age old question, once and for all, "if a tree falls in the forest..."

Moonliner · 02-04-2010, 11:28 AM

So to sum up, so far the season of Answers is really just more questions.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-04-2010, 11:47 AM

Yes, and anyone who expected otherwise hasn't been paying attention.

BarTopDancer · 02-04-2010, 11:51 AM

Basically

But we know that smoky is Esau/Not!Locke and the ash keeps him at bay.
We also know that Sayid and Sawyer are still smoking hot.

scaeagles · 02-04-2010, 12:10 PM

We also know that a whole bunch of others live in the Temple. Unless I missed that before.

bewitched · 02-04-2010, 01:11 PM

Sheesh, I have lots of thoughts but I want to throw this out there about Sayid:

If we stick with the idea that Jacob/the island is about redemption and we remember that he touched all (well almost) of the main characters sometime in the past in an effort to save (or bestow redemption upon) all of them, then I think he finally "saved" Sayid.

I don't remember his exact words to Hurley, but I believe they were very close to, "they are the only ones who can save him."

Remember young Ben? When he was shot, Richard told Kate and Juliet that he wouldn't remember anything and that he would never be the same. Did he just give Sayid a "reboot"? The one factor that would otherwise always keep Sayid from being redeemed (at least in his mind) was all of the bad things he did in the past. If those memories are gone and he is "changed", i.e. left with his essential "Sayidness" is he not, in effect, saved (redeemed)?

I bring this up because here's what I think:

Setting the sideways timeline aside for the moment, I think these last 5 seasons have been rife with the idea of redemption, that who you are is not made up of any one (or any several) moments in time; there is an essential character to us all which gets obscured by life. I think Jacob sees the good in people and believes that when you bring the good in each person to the surface, you advance mankind as a whole (a step forward). With that in mind, I think we are going to see, one by one, each character's redemption whether by Jacob's instruction or through his hand. He's clearly dead, but not gone. And I think this is what was meant by having to choose...you have to choose faith, and therefore redemption and if you don't, by default, you choose the dark side.

And yeah, Sayid is still hot.

Betty · 02-04-2010, 08:48 PM

Certainly the concept of having choice keeps coming up.

I wonder if Sayid will now be Jacob (or visa versa).

SzczerbiakManiac · 02-05-2010, 09:57 AM

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I wonder if Sayid will now be Jacob (or visa versa).

If so, I vote we call him Jayid.

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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	Basically But we know that smoky is Esau/Not!Locke and the ash keeps him at bay. We also know that Sayid and Sawyer are still smoking hot. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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bewitched 101% Yummy! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I know Kung Fu. Posts: 1,413	Sheesh, I have lots of thoughts but I want to throw this out there about Sayid: If we stick with the idea that Jacob/the island is about redemption and we remember that he touched all (well almost) of the main characters sometime in the past in an effort to save (or bestow redemption upon) all of them, then I think he finally "saved" Sayid. I don't remember his exact words to Hurley, but I believe they were very close to, "they are the only ones who can save him." Remember young Ben? When he was shot, Richard told Kate and Juliet that he wouldn't remember anything and that he would never be the same. Did he just give Sayid a "reboot"? The one factor that would otherwise always keep Sayid from being redeemed (at least in his mind) was all of the bad things he did in the past. If those memories are gone and he is "changed", i.e. left with his essential "Sayidness" is he not, in effect, saved (redeemed)? I bring this up because here's what I think: Setting the sideways timeline aside for the moment, I think these last 5 seasons have been rife with the idea of redemption, that who you are is not made up of any one (or any several) moments in time; there is an essential character to us all which gets obscured by life. I think Jacob sees the good in people and believes that when you bring the good in each person to the surface, you advance mankind as a whole (a step forward). With that in mind, I think we are going to see, one by one, each character's redemption whether by Jacob's instruction or through his hand. He's clearly dead, but not gone. And I think this is what was meant by having to choose...you have to choose faith, and therefore redemption and if you don't, by default, you choose the dark side. And yeah, Sayid is still hot. __________________ ~Whitney Wondering about the future of Ellington Woodard's punk@ss sh!t.
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