Ding Dong bin Laden is gone

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Wow....we sure do have a different view of 1980's geopolitics. I, however, view mine as opinion, and you seem to view your opinion as fact. A stark difference.

Both of these issues are matter of opinion, I suppose, and we disagree.

It sure sounded like you were stating it as fact to me.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Here's what I liken it to. The Berlin wall fell when GHWBush was President. Did he deserve THE credit? Not all, but some, and there was credit due the previous administration of Reagan and the policies thereof.

Communism was already on it's last legs when Reagan took office. The soviets simply could not compete with the western world. It would have collapsed regardless of who the president was.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Communism was already on it's last legs when Reagan took office. The soviets simply could not compete with the western world. It would have collapsed regardless of who the president was.

Perhaps, but not in the time frame it did. It was only Reagan, but other leaders of the time, including Lady Thatcher and Pope John Paul.

Kennedy deserves some credit for having the cajones he did during the Cuban Missile crisis. Hell, OBL does too, as ISM alluded to earlier. I would argue that Carter did everything he could to prop them up, but that's a different matter all together. I find the history of the collapse a very interesting one.