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€uromeinke, FEJ. and Ghoulish Delight RULE!!! NA abides. |
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Sure there. It's just south of here. It's called Leisure World.
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So what is the ultimate fate of the very very naughty?
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Same as everyone else: Being dead.
That's what I was referring to with the Jehovah's Witnesses. They don't believe in hell either. The binary option is eternal life on earth or eternal death/oblivion (with a very select few getting option #3: eternal time in heaven). |
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Vague.
Most discussion in Torah is in terms of punishment during life. Discussion of afterlife punishment comes in 2 forms. First is simply that, unlike those that have been good, you will not be reunited with your loved ones. Then there's talk of the "World To Come" which gets used somewhat interchangeably to refer to the spiritual life after death AND the world reboot that will happen after the arrival of the messiah (not Jesus). Basically, lack of goodness will lead to less standing in the World To Come. As a practical matter, those are topics that only come up for the most part in circles doing deep reads of Torah/Talmud/rabbinical writings. Discussion of afterlife and eternal punishment/reward is not common in Jewish education.
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Other religions with no, or essentialy no, afterlife element include:
Confuscianism, Epicurianism, Shinto (mostly they leave that to the Buddhist half of life), and Taoism. On the hell question, that's a long running debate in various Christian circles. I think it was This American Life that did a long story on the reaction when the preacher at a fundamentalist megachurch decided he no longer believes in the existence of hell. |
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It is one of the aspects of Judaism I respect. The general gist I got from answers to the question, "Why should I be good?" growing up was, "Because then you'd be an a-hole. And nobody likes an a-hole, including God." I find that a much more tenable moral compass than the reward/punishment message.
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