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Old 09-26-2005, 09:35 AM   #21
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:09 PM   #22
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I was thinking about this god-vengeance thing, and I really don't understand it at all. If one looks at the Biblical Sodom and Gommorah story (whether one believes it was done by God or not, there is a lot of very interesting acheological evidence of two cities completely destroyed by fire and never reinhabited, but that's another story), when God goes about destroying something, he doesn't mess around.
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So, you're saying this half-assed stuff is the work of the devil?
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:34 PM   #24
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Ah....I'm not one that thinks everything has to fall into one camp or another. The world has certain physical and natural laws and events that just happen. There are fault lines, so there are earthquakes. There are warm oceans, so there are hurricanes. Etc, etc, etc. This does make me a heretic in certain circles that believe in divine micromanagement.
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hehehehe. LOVE the term "Divine Micromanagement". Beautiful!
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Old 09-27-2005, 04:47 PM   #26
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I was thinking about this god-vengeance thing, and I really don't understand it at all. If one looks at the Biblical Sodom and Gommorah story (whether one believes it was done by God or not, there is a lot of very interesting acheological evidence of two cities completely destroyed by fire and never reinhabited, but that's another story), when God goes about destroying something, he doesn't mess around.

However, archiologists have argued that Sodom and Gommorah might be a "Which came first? The Chicken or the Egg" Story.

Back when the story was put into the Bible, EVERYTHING was by the hand of God. If you got a rash on your butt, you were being punished for something.
So the Story of an entire city being leveled and burning to the ground, would surely have been quite the story for a long time. The fact that the area is prone to Quakes and most innner city strutures would have been clay brick and wood, one good shake and the whole city would have been leveled and burned in the aftermath. Stories being what they are grow to legend etc, and thus you get the story of 2 cities being flattened, at the hand of God.

But, who knows. I do believe in God, and sometimes the "Sh*t Happens" argument just cant be explained.
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Back when the story was put into the Bible, EVERYTHING was by the hand of God. If you got a rash on your butt, you were being punished for something.
So the Story of an entire city being leveled and burning to the ground, would surely have been quite the story for a long time. The fact that the area is prone to Quakes and most innner city strutures would have been clay brick and wood, one good shake and the whole city would have been leveled and burned in the aftermath. Stories being what they are grow to legend etc, and thus you get the sory of 2 cities being flattened, at the hand of God.
That's not really relevant to the point scaeagles was trying to make. Under the assumption that you DO believe in God's destruction of Sodom and Gamora (as well as the copious other stories of God destroying things), Katrina certainly looks like a pale imiatation.
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Well, I dont think God just goes around striking cities to dust. i think he lets us do that to ourselves. Build a city in area's prone to flooding and earthquakes, and what do you get?

Floods and Earthquakes!....Imagine that!
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Old 09-27-2005, 06:05 PM   #29
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Well, I dont think God just goes around striking cities to dust. i think he lets us do that to ourselves. Build a city in area's prone to flooding and earthquakes, and what do you get?
Again, you're arguing a completely different point. It's not about what YOU believe. Scaeagle's point is that if even if you believe the letter of the bible, this act doesn't fit with God's past pattern.
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Old 09-27-2005, 07:54 PM   #30
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Again, you're arguing a completely different point. It's not about what YOU believe. Scaeagle's point is that if even if you believe the letter of the bible, this act doesn't fit with God's past pattern.
Exactly my point. Thanks.
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