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Old 12-26-2007, 12:10 PM   #1
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Jewish Defence league. Are they really that dumb?

Here is what Will Smith said about Hitler:

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Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do the most evil thing I can do today'," said Will. "I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good'
and the JDL's response:

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Smith's comments are ignorant, detestable and offensive. They spit on the memory of every person murdered by the Nazis. His disgusting words stick a knife in the backs of every veteran who fought so valiantly to save the world from those aspirations of Adolf Hitler. Smith's comments also cast the perpetrators of the Holocaust as misguided fellows rather than the repulsive villains of history they truly were.
Can't these folks at the JDL see they are shooting themselves in the foot over this type of thing? What Mr. Smith said is basically TRUE. If you had the chance to interview Hitler and asked, "Mr. Hitler, are you evil?" what do you think his response would have been?

The only one I see being ignorant here is the JDL.
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Old 12-26-2007, 12:36 PM   #2
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I have to agree, Moonie. Irrational kneejerk response.
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If you had the chance to interview Hitler and asked, "Mr. Hitler, are you evil?" what do you think his response would have been?
Probably the same as if you asked him if Jews were fully human.
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Old 12-26-2007, 12:46 PM   #5
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Probably the same as if you asked him if Jews were fully human.
I expect he would have answered both questions "No."

Am I to read into your response that you think Mr. Smiths comments were somehow pro-Hitler?
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:47 PM   #6
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Yeah, pretty dumb and uninformed response from them. I can't stand when the truth of history gets obscured by emotions and opinions. It's like people who love conspiracies and dislike the government so they think that bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a political move to "scare the Russians." Revisionist history sucks. We're supposed to learn from the past and use it as a lesson in what not to do in the future, but that isn't possible when past events can't be viewed and discussed accurately. It's as though Michael Moore is teaching history in all our schools or something.
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just goes to show how an intelligent, well spoken logic based opinion can get you into as much trouble as a really dumb one all depending on who hears it and how they decide to take it
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I really like Will Smith. I would think that the JDL could choose their battles just a little better. Smith is clearly anti-Hitler.
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:50 PM   #9
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Pro-Hitler? No. Anti-semitic? Possibly. Phenomenally stupid? Absolutely.

We all have impulses to cruelty, and Hitler and the Nazis joyfully gave theirs free rein. When someone declares people sub-human, confiscates their property, murders them en masse, including children, harvests their fillings, makes people dig their own mass grave, etc., etc., etc., you don't look back on that with a shrug and say, "Well, he meant well."
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:02 PM   #10
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Pro-Hitler? No. Anti-semitic? Possibly. Phenomenally stupid? Absolutely.

We all have impulses to cruelty, and Hitler and the Nazis joyfully gave theirs free rein. When someone declares people sub-human, confiscates their property, murders them en masse, including children, harvests their fillings, makes people dig their own mass grave, etc., etc., etc., you don't look back on that with a shrug and say, "Well, he meant well."
Hitler was pretty much the poster boy for megalomania. Self delusion is inherent. He DID mean well, he DID not think of himself as evil. You weaken your own argument if you deny facts.

It seems to me you are reading in some type of apology for the actions of Hitler in Mr. Smiths statements. It's not there. Hitler was evil on an almost unimaginable scale and what Hitler thought of himself does not change that score.
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