New meaning to "Bulk" mailing...

Moonliner · 04-24-2008, 11:21 AM

I'm not saying it's a good idea, I'm not saying it's a bad idea but I'm guessing there is at least one person here that might be interested...

Use "Postage Paid" Envelopes to mail a brick to junk mailers!

Of course the truth is never quite as fun....

Kevy Baby · 04-24-2008, 12:11 PM

The second link pretty much addresses the issue. One other thing is that a repeat offender of trying to mail a brick could possibly be hit with a mail fraud charge: a VERY serious offense.

Also, mailing a brick wouldn't be a PITA for the mailer: it would be a PITA for the USPS.

Personally, it seems kind of silly, but if it makes one feel better, so be it.

This would be a good time to remind everyone that you can register yourself on a national DNM (Do Not Mail) list with the DMA (Direct Marketers Association) here: http://www.dmachoice.org/. Almost all mailers use this list to suppress their mailings. It's not a perfect system, but it is a very effective one.

Also, despite what some people claim, direct mail does not contribute to deforestation. The vast majority of paper today is made from trees grown specifically to make paper. These trees are grown like crops and the land is continually re-used for this exact purpose. Recycled paper (which thankfully is going out of vogue) is actually more harmful to the environment than virgin stock.

Also, while the paper making process used to be an environmentally unfriendly process, almost all US and Canadian mills have been rebuilt or replaced. Also, offshore paper mills (predominantly China) are cleaning up their acts as well. Modern paper making is a MUCH cleaner process than it was 20 years ago.

Alex · 04-24-2008, 12:26 PM

I believe it was Isaac Asimov that wrote a short story back in the 50s or 60s with the premise of a physicist's quest to discover/create the densest matter possible just so that he could put on little bit of it into a pre-paid junk mail envelope and have it weigh many thousands of tons.

Alex · 04-24-2008, 12:34 PM

Not that I would ever do anything like that.

Getting that upset about junk mail violates my lifestyle philosophy of pre-rounding annoyances.

Kevy Baby · 04-24-2008, 12:43 PM

For those interested in numbers:

Assuming that they qualify for QBRM status, they are paying from $0.385 - $0.430 per returned First Class mail piece in addition to annual and possibly quarterly fees. That is based on one ounce. Additional ounces are $0.17/ounce up to 13 ounces. Postcards would be less.

If they don't qualify for QBRM, they could be paying as much as $1.11 per returned one ounce piece. But the chances are pretty good that the annoying ones qualify for QBRM.

Am I putting you to sleep yet?

Moonliner · 04-24-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

For those interested in numbers:

Assuming that they qualify for QBRM status, they are paying from $0.385 - $0.430 per returned First Class mail piece in addition to annual and possibly quarterly fees. That is based on one ounce. Additional ounces are $0.17/ounce up to 13 ounces. Postcards would be less.

If they don't qualify for QBRM, they could be paying as much as $1.11 per returned one ounce piece. But the chances are pretty good that the annoying ones qualify for QBRM.

Am I putting you to sleep yet?

So, in theory a 2lbs lead sheet fitted into the envelope would in fact do the trick?

Also what if we go the other way? let's say I attach a label to a helium balloon and mail it. Would I get a refund?

Kevy Baby · 04-24-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

So, in theory a 2lbs lead sheet fitted into the envelope would in fact do the trick?

The chances are that the lead would fall out of the envelope somewhere within the USPS, if it didn't jam a machine somewhere along the way.

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Also what if we go the other way? let's say I attach a label to a helium balloon and mail it. Would I get a refund?

You hold your breathe on that one

Moonliner · 04-24-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

The chances are that the lead would fall out of the envelope somewhere within the USPS, if it didn't jam a machine somewhere along the way.
You hold your breathe on that one

What's your address?

Kevy Baby · 04-24-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

What's your address?

1313 S Harbor Blvd
Anaheim, CA 92802

Moonliner · 04-24-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

1313 S Harbor Blvd
Anaheim, CA 92802

Thanks. One lighter than air package will be on it's way to you shortly, Mr. Grier.

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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	The second link pretty much addresses the issue. One other thing is that a repeat offender of trying to mail a brick could possibly be hit with a mail fraud charge: a VERY serious offense. Also, mailing a brick wouldn't be a PITA for the mailer: it would be a PITA for the USPS. Personally, it seems kind of silly, but if it makes one feel better, so be it. This would be a good time to remind everyone that you can register yourself on a national DNM (Do Not Mail) list with the DMA (Direct Marketers Association) here: http://www.dmachoice.org/. Almost all mailers use this list to suppress their mailings. It's not a perfect system, but it is a very effective one. Also, despite what some people claim, direct mail does not contribute to deforestation. The vast majority of paper today is made from trees grown specifically to make paper. These trees are grown like crops and the land is continually re-used for this exact purpose. Recycled paper (which thankfully is going out of vogue) is actually more harmful to the environment than virgin stock. Also, while the paper making process used to be an environmentally unfriendly process, almost all US and Canadian mills have been rebuilt or replaced. Also, offshore paper mills (predominantly China) are cleaning up their acts as well. Modern paper making is a MUCH cleaner process than it was 20 years ago. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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04-24-2008, 12:26 PM	#3
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I believe it was Isaac Asimov that wrote a short story back in the 50s or 60s with the premise of a physicist's quest to discover/create the densest matter possible just so that he could put on little bit of it into a pre-paid junk mail envelope and have it weigh many thousands of tons.
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04-24-2008, 12:34 PM	#4
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Not that I would ever do anything like that. Getting that upset about junk mail violates my lifestyle philosophy of pre-rounding annoyances.
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	For those interested in numbers: Assuming that they qualify for QBRM status, they are paying from $0.385 - $0.430 per returned First Class mail piece in addition to annual and possibly quarterly fees. That is based on one ounce. Additional ounces are $0.17/ounce up to 13 ounces. Postcards would be less. If they don't qualify for QBRM, they could be paying as much as $1.11 per returned one ounce piece. But the chances are pretty good that the annoying ones qualify for QBRM. Am I putting you to sleep yet? __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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