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Nephythys · 07-01-2008, 08:11 PM

If one wanted to- how do I put this- purge negative energies and emotional hurts from a really fvcked up relationship- and let's say wanted to burn away certain items....is there any good.....umm, stuff to burn with it?

Like smudging?

(nothing like a Christian asking for a pagan rite to burn stuff)

Help- and forgive any unintended slights (I sound like an idiot)

CoasterMatt · 07-01-2008, 08:20 PM

legally?

Alex · 07-01-2008, 08:22 PM

Out of curiosity, I hope this isn't the recently englorioused relationship?

No help on the Wiccan stuff.

lashbear · 07-01-2008, 08:41 PM

Paging Kevy Baby....

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€uroMeinke · 07-01-2008, 08:55 PM

I'm no pagan, but I love a good ritual and I say burning requires an oil of some sort - I think it's up to you to select something appropriate - extra virgin? Something nutty? There's a wealth of symbology awaiting you at every aisle of the market.

alphabassettgrrl · 07-01-2008, 09:13 PM

Sage is good for banishing, as is lavender. You can write down what you're banishing on a piece of paper and burn it in the bowl you're using for the incense (charcoal in the bowl, put incense on charcoal; the stuff generally doesn't burn well on its own). Waning moon is a good time to do banishing/purging work.

This kind of work is all about focus. Focus on what you want to get rid of. Put it into the paper that you're writing on. Then burn it. Feel the weight lift from your heart. Bury the ashes in the earth (maybe away from the house) or into running water.

Another tactic is to use a piece of string. Put something that is symbolically you on one end and something that is him on the other. Cut the string and feel him disconnected from you.

When the new moon comes in the western sky, fill your house with something that smells good- lemon, or flowers, or whatever. "See" and feel your house fill with the love you *have*.

What kind of thing do you want this to be? Most of this stuff is basically guidelines, and you go by feel.

I don't think you sound like an idiot.

Kevy Baby · 07-01-2008, 09:37 PM

I will start by saying that Disneyphile can answer this better than I - she is far more edumucated in the Wiccan ways. I will (with the help of GusGus) give some basics.

Since you aren't experienced with full rituals, we will avoid heavy details.

Some basic thoughts:

Banishments work best during a waning moon (the time between a Full Moon and a New Moon). Unfortunately, today (7/1) is the last day of waning moon. The next full moon is July 18, so any time after that would work. Again, a waning moon is not a must; it just helps.
Remember that you are only banishing the MEMORIES of this person and the relationship: you do not want to wish harm upon the person as part of your ritual. The rule of three is strong within Wicca: everything you put out into the Universe will come back to you three-fold (known as the Three-Fold Reed).
If you have an item(s) to burn as part of the ritual (physical items that are reminders of the person you are trying to banish from your life), make sure they are non-toxic. You don't want to be polluting when you are banishing (Harm Ye None, Lest Ye Be Harmed).
Only burn stuff outdoors.
As far as what "ritual," it looks like ABG covered the basics while I was writing. That should cover you pretty good.
But I do (slightly) disagree with ABG on one minor point: Sage is more for cleansing and purifying. It would be great for cleansing your body after the banishment. Bay Leaf is good for Protection, Purification, and Healing (and is easy to find as opposed to some other herbs such as myrrh).
Also consider burning some sweetgrass after the ritual to seal in the cleansed goodness.

ETA: This site covers far more of the process than you probably want to know on Banishment rituals

Tref · 07-01-2008, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

I'm no pagan, but I love a good ritual

Who doesn't?

€uroMeinke · 07-01-2008, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tref

Who doesn't?

I'm guessing Alex

Alex · 07-01-2008, 10:34 PM

No, that's not true.

I like good ritual too. Deep meaning is a key part of it being good, though, and I think most of the rituals people engage in don't possess that but are done simply because it is expected of them in some way and doesn't come primarily from an internal desire.

I've been quite moved by Mass when among the deeply devout and found it all silly when among people who only go once a year on Easter so that their moms will stop nagging.

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alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	Sage is good for banishing, as is lavender. You can write down what you're banishing on a piece of paper and burn it in the bowl you're using for the incense (charcoal in the bowl, put incense on charcoal; the stuff generally doesn't burn well on its own). Waning moon is a good time to do banishing/purging work. This kind of work is all about focus. Focus on what you want to get rid of. Put it into the paper that you're writing on. Then burn it. Feel the weight lift from your heart. Bury the ashes in the earth (maybe away from the house) or into running water. Another tactic is to use a piece of string. Put something that is symbolically you on one end and something that is him on the other. Cut the string and feel him disconnected from you. When the new moon comes in the western sky, fill your house with something that smells good- lemon, or flowers, or whatever. "See" and feel your house fill with the love you have. What kind of thing do you want this to be? Most of this stuff is basically guidelines, and you go by feel. I don't think you sound like an idiot. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	I will start by saying that Disneyphile can answer this better than I - she is far more edumucated in the Wiccan ways. I will (with the help of GusGus) give some basics. Since you aren't experienced with full rituals, we will avoid heavy details. Some basic thoughts: Banishments work best during a waning moon (the time between a Full Moon and a New Moon). Unfortunately, today (7/1) is the last day of waning moon. The next full moon is July 18, so any time after that would work. Again, a waning moon is not a must; it just helps. Remember that you are only banishing the MEMORIES of this person and the relationship: you do not want to wish harm upon the person as part of your ritual. The rule of three is strong within Wicca: everything you put out into the Universe will come back to you three-fold (known as the Three-Fold Reed). If you have an item(s) to burn as part of the ritual (physical items that are reminders of the person you are trying to banish from your life), make sure they are non-toxic. You don't want to be polluting when you are banishing (Harm Ye None, Lest Ye Be Harmed). Only burn stuff outdoors. As far as what "ritual," it looks like ABG covered the basics while I was writing. That should cover you pretty good. But I do (slightly) disagree with ABG on one minor point: Sage is more for cleansing and purifying. It would be great for cleansing your body after the banishment. Bay Leaf is good for Protection, Purification, and Healing (and is easy to find as opposed to some other herbs such as myrrh). Also consider burning some sweetgrass after the ritual to seal in the cleansed goodness. ETA: This site covers far more of the process than you probably want to know on Banishment rituals __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln Last edited by Kevy Baby : 07-01-2008 at 09:43 PM.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	No, that's not true. I like good ritual too. Deep meaning is a key part of it being good, though, and I think most of the rituals people engage in don't possess that but are done simply because it is expected of them in some way and doesn't come primarily from an internal desire. I've been quite moved by Mass when among the deeply devout and found it all silly when among people who only go once a year on Easter so that their moms will stop nagging.
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