Lost!

[innerSpaceman]

This is quasi-hopeful. LOST actor Daniel Dae Kim (who plays Jin, and a yummy shirtless one in the previous episode) has this to say about the finale:

It’s pretty amazing. If you think about how many pieces the writers had to put together in order to make it fall into place, it’s mind-boggling, and they did such a great job. Some of the twists and turns are just so clever. For me it was very satisfying. After I read it, I had to sit for five or 10 minutes, just reflecting and digesting, because it definitely makes an impact.

[sleepyjeff]

This is quasi-hopeful. LOST actor Daniel Dae Kim (who plays Jin, and a yummy shirtless one in the previous episode) has this to say about the finale:

That does bode well for us then.....If it was a poorly written finale I doubt if he'd gone out of his way to say such nice things about it and instead just give the stock "the viewers will be pleased" mumbo-jumbo.

[BarTopDancer]

Spoilered for salty language

F*ck ABC. F*ck V. On an subtitle-heavy episode you shove that f*cking V in my face? F*ck.


Lot's of backlash. (http://www.movieline.com/2010/03/tik-tok-v-countdown-clock-during-lost-infuriates-everyone.php)

[JWBear]

"the viewers will be pleased"

Only if they kill Kate.

[scaeagles]

I like Kate. If they were going to kill anyone off, I'm thinking Claire. She bugs me.

[JWBear]

There is a lot of Kate hate out there amongst Lost fandom.

[sleepyjeff]

I hear it's episode 11 of this season.
But not 100% sure.

Not super spoilish, but does contain the name of next weeks episode and who it centers around...
Happily Ever After, Desmond Centric, and a hospital scene...yeah, this is the one you're in...I can't wait to play spot the GC:D

[sleepyjeff]

I like Kate. If they were going to kill anyone off, I'm thinking Claire. She bugs me.

A little Kate goes a long way...in a supporting role she is great but when the episode is about her........well, lets just say Kate centric episodes tend to be slow moving, pointless, convoluted, contrived, and worst of all.......Boring.

Not that I have an opinion or anything on the subject;)

[BarTopDancer]

There is a lot of Kate hate out there amongst Lost fandom.

And a lot of Claire hate.

[sleepyjeff]

Remember the big outrigger canoe chase of last season?

Remember Illana's hospital visit with Jacob?

Could these two be connected somehow?

[SzczerbiakManiac]

According to Darlton, the name of the final episode is:The End
That's "Thuh End" not "Thee End"—they specifically said it's pronounced that way.

[sleepyjeff]

HAPPY LOST DAY!!!


Over half way to The End!

According to Darlton, the name of the final episode is:The End
That's "Thuh End" not "Thee End"—they specifically said it's pronounced that way.

;)

[sleepyjeff]

Could the Candidates be pawns? Game pieces that are maneuvered about, concealed, protected and sometimes captured by the opponent?

Non-candidates such as Richard, Juliet and Desmond may play extremely important parts.....perhaps they are Bishops and Knights......but the true power of being a pawn, is that only pawns can be Queened, and therefore shift the balance of power. This means pawns need to be protected, and sometimes sacrificed for the greater good............ So who is the pawn that is to be queened?

HAPPY LOST DAY!!!!!!!

[Stan4dSteph]

I saw GeminiCricket!

[sleepyjeff]

Best Episode this year......perhaps best ever!

:snap: :snap: :snap: :snap:

[sleepyjeff]

I saw GeminiCricket!

Charlie running down the hallway scene?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Charlie running down the hallway scene?Yep, that was he. I could just hear him saying, "Now why is that skinny boy running? He's backside's flapping out of his gown!" :D :D :D

[JWBear]

I saw GeminiCricket!

We saw him too!

Charlie running down the hallway scene?

Yes. In the background, in a hospital gown, leaning on a gurney.

[innerSpaceman]

Fine, I missed the Cricket. But it was a RAD, RAAAAD episode!

I'll have no problem watching it again tomorrow - so I'll be sure to look for G.C. now's I know exactly where he'll be. :cool:

[€uroMeinke]

So if I see the Brad episode will the rest of the series from season 1 episode 3 be spoiled for me?

[BarTopDancer]

I saw Brad!

[sleepyjeff]

So if I see the Brad episode will the rest of the series from season 1 episode 3 be spoiled for me?

Not likely.........although it could make you feel even more lost:D

[Stan4dSteph]

Loved it. Desmond is an awesome character. He's like a bombshell.

And we got the first inklings of the flashes coming together.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Loved Eloise's reaction to Desmond's new found knowledge.

[scaeagles]

OK....maybe I'm not understanding something....

This whole Desmond thing would seem to point to some form of parallel universe kind of thing. Right? Maybe I'm wrong. If that's the case, I'm not sure how the Jacob vs. Smokey and keeping smokey on the island comes into play.

Am I just way off or am I missing some connection?

[Ghoulish Delight]

OK....maybe I'm not understanding something....

This whole Desmond thing would seem to point to some form of parallel universe kind of thing. Right? Maybe I'm wrong. If that's the case, I'm not sure how the Jacob vs. Smokey and keeping smokey on the island comes into play.

Am I just way off or am I missing some connection?They have not made it clear, is the answer. Could be parallel universe. Could be that the parallel universe is a "trapped in their own mind" kinda thing (as could the island itself). They have not given enough information to know what the relationship between the island and the flash sideways world is.

[JWBear]

€'s post made me realize that someone who only watched the first season wouldn't know who the majority of the players in the current season are.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Loved Eloise's reaction to Desmond's new found knowledge.

OK....maybe I'm not understanding something....

This whole Desmond thing would seem to point to some form of parallel universe kind of thing. Right? Maybe I'm wrong. If that's the case, I'm not sure how the Jacob vs. Smokey and keeping smokey on the island comes into play.

Am I just way off or am I missing some connection?

They have not made it clear, is the answer. Could be parallel universe. Could be that the parallel universe is a "trapped in their own mind" kinda thing (as could the island itself). They have not given enough information to know what the relationship between the island and the flash sideways world is.


Based on Eloise's reaction, it's looking more and more like this is some sort of virtual reality experiment. Matrix/holodeck kinda thing. In that context I suppose that the MIB/Jacob dynamic might represent the suspension of disbelief necessary to keep the illusion. That, like the Matrix, for the VR environment to remain stable and convincing, the participants need to have free will, which carries the risk of destroying the whole experiment. And what's left undetermined is, would blowing the experiment open be a good thing or a bad thing. Perhaps the VR world is an alternate to some unpleasant reality and it's all for their own good. Or perhaps it's a punishment of some sort.

[innerSpaceman]

Yep, I don't know how they could have telegraphed MATRIX any louder.

[sleepyjeff]

I used to think Charlie himself programmed the code for the looking glass("programmed by a musician" said the dying other)....

Now, me thinks it was Daniel.

[Ghoulish Delight]

It'll be interesting to see how this whole "true love" theme figures. With Daniel/Charlotte, Desmond/Penny, Charlie/Claire, Hurley/Libby, and I suppose the married couples (Sun/Jin, Rose/Bernard) it's pretty cut and dry. But Locke? The Kate/Sawyer/Jack/Juliette love parallelogram? Interesting that for Charlie, Daniel, and Desmond, there was a definitive true love tie that seemed to bridge the divide between flash-sidways and Island, but at least some of the others lack that clear-cut tie.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

We didn't see Brad and we deleted the episode!!!

It was a great one, though. Going to catch him on ABC.com now.

[sleepyjeff]

One interesting tidbit........Desmond was wearing a wedding ring on the plane in LA X.......no wedding ring last night(not even at the airport).

Are these flash-sideways representative of a single alternate reality or multiple alternates?

[innerSpaceman]

or representative of continuity errors? ;)

[BarTopDancer]

or representative of continuity errors? ;)

No. Something that significant would not be a continuity error. Everything has a reason in this show.

[JWBear]

It was pointed out on Lostpedia that the nurse that refused to give Desmond information on Charlie was the same actress that plaid a nurse at the mental hospital that Hurley was in, with the inference that it might be the same character. Interesting little connection.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Desmond saying "Who's Penny?" Priceless.

The guy who plays Daniel really pulled off the alternate character. Great actor!

You know, if I'm ever having confusing visions and odd encounters with strangers, and I begin trying to follow the clues, and someone says to me "You're not ready yet, turn back now, stop asking questions", I don't think I'd stop. Seriously, is there a good way for someone to stop someone else from continuing on the journey? Because while I was thrilled to hear Eloise confirming that this is something big, I have to say the overused dialogue is hokey and doesn't come across as threatening in the slightest.

[sleepyjeff]

or representative of continuity errors? ;)

Perhaps, but they don't usually go out of their way to point the continuity error out:

Minkowski: "Looking for some company, I noticed you weren't wearing a wedding band"

[Gemini Cricket]

lol! :D
Represent LoT on Lost!

Now here's an interesting thing... There was a whole scene that I was in that wasn't shown. The friend who got me on the set said it could be shown on episode 13. So if all goes well and I don't end up on the cutting room floor, I could be in 2 episodes. Woohoo!

So, yeah, I got to meet the Hobbit guy, the Party of Five guy and Desmond. I got to see Desmond with his shirt off. Yay, me! Desmond said I was a "funny guy".

Being on the set was fun. They fed us. I was happy about that.

People on the crew were fascinated by the fact that I don't watch the show and only saw halfway through the first season. They kinda treated me like a visitor from outer space. lol

VVV Me in my doctor costume. The goatee was drawn on by the makeup ladies. VVV

[sleepyjeff]

One interesting tidbit........Desmond was wearing a wedding ring on the plane in LA X.......no wedding ring last night(not even at the airport).

Are these flash-sideways representative of a single alternate reality or multiple alternates?

No. Something that significant would not be a continuity error. Everything has a reason in this show.


I think that there may be 10 or more iterations of the sideways/alternate reality.

Somehow, Desmond did get married and the reality we are seeing in LA X is one in which he is married....the reality we saw last night was an earlier iteration.

The X in LA X has got to mean something....why not 10th iteration?

[Ghoulish Delight]

The X in LA X has got to mean something....why not 10th iteration?
Or it could mean "LA 10" in the "Oceanic 6" sense. Let's see:

Jack
Kate
Jin
Sun
Sawyer
Locke
Miles
Ben
Daniel
Desmond
Charlotte
Sayid
Claire
Charlie
Hurley
....


Okay, maybe not. Unless only a subset of them count (e.g., not Daniel, Charlotte, and Miles since they only show up as bit-players in other people's side stories). But that still leaves a bunch more than X. Hmmm

[Gemini Cricket]

Here's one of the shots. I'm to the right of the Hobbit's head.
lol

[cirquelover]

I see him! I see him!!

I can't wait to watch the episode and point you out to the boys! We are always at least a week behind, we have to wait for Gary to be home.

[innerSpaceman]

Brad, I think you look hot with a trim goatee, and even hotter as a doctor. I can't help it. I'm a gay jew.

[innerSpaceman]

The hobbit looks like he's pregnant in that shot. Calling Dr. Brad!

[Ghoulish Delight]

lol! :D


So, yeah, I got to meet the Hobbit guy,


http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/attachment.php?attachmentid=1380&stc=1&d=1270678578

More importantly it seems you got a clear view of the back of the Hobbit guy's hospital gown.

[bewitched]

YAY! Daniel! (he's one of my favorite characters)


I am afraid (and cautiously bummed) that Jack and Kate are going to end up together. It strikes me that they are heading towards the idea that it is love that anchors people; based on what we know, that leaves Jack and Kate together.

[bewitched]

And I believe that Charlie will always be destined to die...that some things fall under "whatever happened, happened" and can't be changed.

Oh, and I do not like Zoe at all.

[innerSpaceman]

Well, I just watched the ep again and have to say ... I would never have seen Brad if I didn't know right where to look for him. Let's just say, I hope that episode 13 footage he's in hits the air instead of the floor.


Glad I watched that again, tho. It's a great episode, and I love the feeling that we've reached the everything-coming-together stage. The set-up stage was sometimes excruciating.

[bewitched]

Lookie at what I just read here (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b175281_lost_redux_find_out_what_this_show.html):

In tonight's episode of Lost, we learned what the entire series really is all about.

It's a four-letter word. It's not spoilery. And according to Damon Lindelof himself, it is what Lost "always has been…always will be."

That word is...

Love.

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b175281_lost_redux_find_out_what_this_show.html#ix zz0kTxr2Bhm



And on further reflection, I continue think Charlie will die but he too will be reunited with his great love...I think Claire is going to die.


**Hey, that's GC!!!**

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Based on Eloise's reaction, it's looking more and more like this is some sort of virtual reality experiment. Matrix/holodeck kinda thing. In that context I suppose that the MIB/Jacob dynamic might represent the suspension of disbelief necessary to keep the illusion. That, like the Matrix, for the VR environment to remain stable and convincing, the participants need to have free will, which carries the risk of destroying the whole experiment. And what's left undetermined is, would blowing the experiment open be a good thing or a bad thing. Perhaps the VR world is an alternate to some unpleasant reality and it's all for their own good. Or perhaps it's a punishment of some sort.

Excited and interested in this theory, and I suppose I won't even be mildly disappointed if this is all a much better way of handling that kind of story than the film "eXistenZ".

Also, I should probably read "The Third Policeman" before this show ends. I've been meaning to do that but keep getting sidetracked by other books.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Excited and interested in this theory, and I suppose I won't even be mildly disappointed if this is all a much better way of handling that kind of story than the film "eXistenZ". That movie wanted so badly to be good. It gave it a good shot, but never quite overcame its cheapness/cheesiness.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Well, I just watched the ep again and have to say ... I would never have seen Brad if I didn't know right where to look for him. Let's just say, I hope that episode 13 footage he's in hits the air instead of the floor. We had the benefit of seeing Steph's tweeted hint ("Nice gown"). I wouldn't have spotted him (and didn't on the first pass) if I weren't looking, and having forgotten exactly what Steph tweeted ("dress"? "gown"? "robe"?) I wasn't looking. But then Charlie said that line about his "dressing gown" and it clicked, "Ooooh, gown!" and I went back and scrutinized the background of every hospital scene. No problem finding him them. :snap:

[Stan4dSteph]

Happy to help! :) I remembered that Brad had said he was a patient in one of his scenes, so I just kept an eye on the background actors in those hospital scenes. It also helped to have the DVR that I could go back and double check.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

It's a four-letter word. It's not spoilery. And according to Damon Lindelof himself, it is what Lost "always has been…always will be."

That word is...

Love.
:rolleyes: Grody!

I'm sorry, but when a plane crashes on a mysterious island involving a smoke monster, a button that saves the world every 108 minutes, and time travel escapades, the predominant story is not about Love.

[Betty]

:rolleyes: Grody!

I'm sorry, but when a plane crashes on a mysterious island involving a smoke monster, a button that saves the world every 108 minutes, and time travel escapades, the predominant story is not about Love.

I agree. That's nearly as bad as it all being a dream.

[Stan4dSteph]

Love is a pretty all encompassing topic, and I actually like that idea. How is love "grody?" Would it be better if it were all about death and hate?

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

:rolleyes: Grody!

I'm sorry, but when a plane crashes on a mysterious island involving a smoke monster, a button that saves the world every 108 minutes, and time travel escapades, the predominant story is not about Love.

My hope is that his statement is very general, and that he's saying the show is really about the relationships between people, and the love that exists within those relationships. Regardless of what the Island is, regardless of the story, you're supposed to care about and relate to the people. And I do think, in general, Lost has done a very good job of that. It gets muddied when they try to introduce too many characters in a season, especially towards the end, because that's time taken away form the people you're invested in. Deadwood suffered a lot in its 3rd season because it focused way too much on story lines that involved new characters no one cared about.

That the article focused so much on romantic love was concerning and is, yeah, grody. :) And apparently Jacob didn't want any gay people on his island. So, again, I call him a dick. Heh.

[innerSpaceman]

That's cause Jacob's deep in the everlasting closet. I should know. He's my husband in a future life that takes place in what you would call the 1700's. ;)


Actually, they haven't added a bunch of new characters this season, and that was wise. Two or three of note, and one of those is dead already.

Oddly, even though most of them have even been given their own episode, I think the effect of this season has been to push the original Losties way into the background. They don't seem to be involved with the plot, and despite cameos in other episodes - seem to have a decidedly passive role in the direction the story seems to be going --- other than to simply "be" candidates-in-waiting.


I note that the yowza episodes have been about Ben Linus, and Richard, and now Desmond. Sayid's and Jack's weren't bad ... but Sawyer's was meh, and Kate's reportedly SO bad that I haven't even bothered watching it. Jin and Sun's was kinda kool. Has Hurley had his yet?

But the "plot" of the season seems all about everyone BUT the originals. I'm kinda forgetting about them, and I wonder if that's gonna be troublesome for a big finale?


Whatever. The season is finally getting good ... and maybe, like others before it, the plodding start will come to make sense in the overall scheme.



Too bad this is the last season. I've a feeling Dr. Brad might have played a bigger role in the next.



(Oh, and EH1812, those pointless new characters in Deadwood's 3rd season were supposed to play big roles in the 4th that never happened. I think it's wise to add new characters in all but the final season. Unlike Lost, most series don't know when that's going to be.)

[Gemini Cricket]

More importantly it seems you got a clear view of the back of the Hobbit guy's hospital gown.
Yep. White boxer briefs underneath. P.S. Merry the Hobbit is really, really skinny in person. I noticed the same thing about the "Friends" cast when I saw them in person eons ago...

[Gemini Cricket]

Too bad this is the last season. I've a feeling Dr. Brad might have played a bigger role in the next.

I have a few friends who are on a waiting list to be an extra on the last episode. Also, the lovely lady who plays Sheila Franklin in our production of "Hair" was in the latest episode, too. I'm not sure where she is, tho...

AND... the nurse chasing Merry the Hobbit also auditioned for the "Dixie Swim Club" which I was assistant to the director for. She's fabulous, but we didn't cast her.

[JWBear]

That's cause Jacob's deep in the everlasting closet. I should know. He's my husband in a future life that takes place in what you would call the 1700's. ;)

Hands off, bitch. He's MINE!

Has Hurley had his yet?

The next episode is supposed to be Hurley-centric.

[Gemini Cricket]

I wish I would have been cast as the guy who got microwaved at the beginning of the episode. That would have been cool.

[innerSpaceman]

My favorite part of the whole episode is when Widmore stops the dudes with the stretcher, just so he can peel off the sheet and show the guy's burned-to-hell face to Desmond (and us) just before they throw him in there.

There was No Other Reason for this. Hahahahahahaha! Loved it.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I wish I would have been cast as the guy who got microwaved at the beginning of the episode. That would have been cool.I wish I could have "known" him. The guy who played Simmons (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Simmons) (Jonathan Arthur (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jonathan_Arthur)) is a cutie!

[innerSpaceman]

Yeah, I thought he had a face too cute to burn off, but it was still my favorite part. (of the episode, not necessarily of him)

[sleepyjeff]

I've been thinking about Eloise telling Desmond you're not ready yet....Desmond responded ready for what?

The "what" itself is, by itself, an interesting question...but what I'd like to know is why he's not ready yet? Just what did Eloise mean by that?

I think she may have meant he(Island Desmond that is) hasn't flashed yet from the natural pocket of electromagnetism yet.

You see, he flashed from the artificial EM created by Charles....but neither Charles nor Eloise actually expected him to flash from the test...the test was just to see if he'd survive...nothing more.

So, since he hasn't flashed from the proper place yet he isn't ready yet.

The Widmores are like the early years of the Soviet Rocket program.....launching rockets accidentally when they meant only to test them.

Desmond is now an out-of-control rocket:)

[bewitched]

My hope is that his statement is very general, and that he's saying the show is really about the relationships between people, and the love that exists within those relationships. Regardless of what the Island is, regardless of the story, you're supposed to care about and relate to the people.

I agree. It's what I meant when I said that love anchors people. It anchors emotions, it anchors relationships and maybe it even anchors you to the world you belong in.

[sleepyjeff]

....and another thing.....

Minkowski being in this latest episode brought back a question that has yet to be answered........why were the crew of that freighter committing suicide? I've speculated that the ship was in a place close enough to the Island but also still too close to the real world that Time itself -seemed- to almost stand-still....and for some of the freighties, this was causing them to lose their very minds.

Something like the short story by Stephen King...The Jaunt

[RStar]

I'll be looking for GC next week.....

[innerSpaceman]

I'm warming to the theory that Desmond was in a completely different sideways alternate in that episode, indicated by his not being married. He started the flash at the airport just after the Oceanic flight. Did any other character's 'spotlight' episodes start at the airport? Because if not, I'm willing to bet Desmond started an entirely new tangent.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Love is a pretty all encompassing topic, and I actually like that idea. How is love "grody?" Would it be better if it were all about death and hate?It's not an either or situation. I'd rather it be an adventure story. I'm totally digging all the relationship stuff so far. My point is that the show so far isn't a Romance with some Sci-Fi/Fantasy elements - quite the opposite.

Either that, or I really meant that I dislike love, and that I would enjoy it more if it was about death and hate. :rolleyes:

Did any other character's 'spotlight' episodes start at the airport? They all did.

[mousepod]

After this week's episode, I'm wondering if the flash-sideways stuff is a "Last Temptation of Christ"-type story. And if it is, who's doing the tempting?

[innerSpaceman]

Is it too early to start planning the giant group Final Episode screening?

[SzczerbiakManiac]

nope

[Frikitiki]

Jay and Jack have been planning theirs for weeks already!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Is it too early to start planning the giant group Final Episode screening?Aww, I'd be so up for this, but seeing as how we have to constantly pause TV while I deal with Theo, it's probably not the best idea for us. I'll want to see every frame!

[sleepyjeff]

Did any other character's 'spotlight' episodes start at the airport? Because if not, I'm willing to bet Desmond started an entirely new tangent.

He wasn't the first, but it is surprising how few actually started there:



Jack.......In his bedroom
Kate.......LAX
Sayid......Nadias house
Locke.....On his lawn
Richard....Canary Islands
Ben.........Classroom
Sun/Jin....LAX
Sawyer...Cheap Motel

[sleepyjeff]

Aww, I'd be so up for this, but seeing as how we have to constantly pause TV while I deal with Theo, it's probably not the best idea for us. I'll want to see every frame!

I've been invited to a LOST Finale party but I don't think I want to go....I like having total control over the pause button whilst watching this show and don't think I could handle not having that.

[innerSpaceman]

They all did.

He wasn't the first, but it is surprising how few actually started there:


Jack.......In his bedroom
Kate.......LAX
Sayid......Nadias house
Locke.....On his lawn
Richard....Canary Islands
Ben.........Classroom
Sun/Jin....LAX
Sawyer...Cheap Motel

Hmmm, seems you should start catching more frames from more episodes, CP. :p


Thanks, sleepy. I knew I saw one other one start there. Since I (thankfully?) missed the Kate episode, that must have been Sun&Jin's.

Not enough to say that every airport start is a separate tangent. And I don't imagine the wedding ring discrepancy with Desmond is a large enough clue for something so big as multiple sideways alternate universes. So I don't know what to make of the wedding ring thing.

Heheh, I'm sure - about 10 days after the series ends - the internet will be awash with lists of unanswered questions and unresolved clues. :cool:

[Ghoulish Delight]

The wedding ring thing could just mean that Desmond's leading some sort of double-life in the sideways flash.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Hmmm, seems you should start catching more frames from more episodes, CP. :p Yet another thing I can blame on the baby ;)

[Ghoulish Delight]

So that brings the list to:

Missing finer details of Lost
Farts

[innerSpaceman]

Yet another thing I can blame on the baby ;)

Get as many as you can .... starting from year 7, he'll* be blaming everything on you!







*Not necessarily that Theo will, just any child selected at random.

[sleepyjeff]

Heheh, I'm sure - about 10 days after the series ends - the internet will be awash with lists of unanswered questions and unresolved clues. :cool:

Starting with why is everyone so keen on getting this plane back in the air?

Totally ignoring the fact that a ship far larger than the one that got Micheal and Walt off the island exists(see episode 3:9)

:confused:

[Cadaverous Pallor]

So that brings the list to:

Missing finer details of Lost
FartsTip o' the hidden iceberg.

[scaeagles]

This may not be news to any of you guys, but I learned something today....about something called a Faraday cage.

A Faraday cage (http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid14_gci942282,00.html)is a metallic enclosure that prevents the entry or escape of an electromagnetic field (EM field).

I just found that interesting. Sorry if that has been brought up before.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Yeah, Faraday is THE name in electro-magnetism. He has a law AND a constant (not to be confused with Desmond).

[Frikitiki]

At the Boston Museum of Science they have the world's largest air-insulated Van de Graaff generator. I remember going into the Theater of Electricity and the show operator standing in the Faraday cage with the huge bolts of static electricity jumping all around.

[alphabassettgrrl]

At the Boston Museum of Science they have the world's largest air-insulated Van de Graaff generator. I remember going into the Theater of Electricity and the show operator standing in the Faraday cage with the huge bolts of static electricity jumping all around.

Oooohhh, cool! Sounds like a trip to Boston is in order!

[bewitched]

Starting with why is everyone so keen on getting this plane back in the air?

Totally ignoring the fact that a ship far larger than the one that got Micheal and Walt off the island exists(see episode 3:9)

:confused:



I think MIB wants everyone on the plane so he can crash it (or have it blow up), indirectly killing all of the candidates (whom he is forbidden to kill directly).

[Stan4dSteph]

Boom goes the dynamite.

[JWBear]

Bye bye Blackrock! (And Iliana!!)

Desmond running down Locke?! That was brutal, brotha.

[katiesue]

Yay Desmond - you throw me down a well I'll run your sideways ass over.

[bewitched]

Hmm...Sideways Desmond doesn't have a son named Charlie, but I know another Desmond who does.

[scaeagles]

Or perhaps he was just thinking quickly to get Ben off his back.

[innerSpaceman]

So, is the thing that sideways Desmond, in between episodes, has discovered enough about the "real" world that he's trying to kill Locke to have some sort of effect on either reality? I'm confused. :confused:

[Ghoulish Delight]

So, is the thing that sideways Desmond, in between episodes, has discovered enough about the "real" world that he's trying to kill Locke to have some sort of effect on either reality? I'm confused. :confused:Such would be the implication. Or perhaps there really IS more than one Desmond floating around sideways world. Any shots of his left ring finger this episode?

[sleepyjeff]

As G-d as my witness, I always thought shovels were invented before compasses.....who knew:rolleyes:

[innerSpaceman]

Yeah, I didn't think FLocke meant with bare hands, but that did come off oddly.




Oh, and while not technically part of the episode, the Willy Wonka song for the next-ep teaser was my favorite part of last night's show!

:snap:

[SzczerbiakManiac]

OMG I loved the use of that song too!

[JWBear]

Here's a question... Why didn't Pierre Chang look any older than he did in 1977?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Yeah, I went ahead and assumed he meant without aid of backhoes or steam shovels.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Here's a question... Why didn't Pierre Chang look any older than he did in 1977?
Oh duh! I was so busy being proud of myself for recognizing his voice before they showed him that I didn't even blink at his lack of aging.

[Gemini Cricket]

Hmph, this was one of those non-Brad episodes of Lost. Ho hum. ;) :D

[innerSpaceman]

Maybe Chang looked young for the same reason Boone looked old.

I don't think they're going to any effort to change the look of the characters with aging or de-aging make up effects. Too bad. I'm sure they've got the budget. Kind of a dufus neglect with entire seasons about time travel and alternate realities.



How old did Brad look last week? It was so blurry, I couldn't tell. They did give him that beardlette, which I think made him look a little older.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Maybe Chang looked young for the same reason Boone looked old. Boone looked a couple years older than he should have. Chang looked 33 years younger than he should have. That's a pretty big difference and one that can't particularly be chalked up to lazy makeup decisions. I would be shocked if there isn't a reason for it.

[innerSpaceman]

I hope I'm wrong, but I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed there's no reason for ring finger continuity or age-inappropriate appearances. I point those out only because I don't have a memory suited to the intricacies of previous seasons ... but the idea that they can have an explanation for every perceived clue or portentious item seen during six years of episodes sometime during the remaining half dozen episodes seems a little far-fetched.

[Ghoulish Delight]

The ring...maybe (though I'd be surprised if that was just an oversight). Failing to age someone 33 years as an oversight, especially in light of Richardocus' story, would be shocking.

[innerSpaceman]

Yeah, I gotta agree. At least, I hope they weren't that lazy and, sure, I'd be very surprised if they were.

Maybe I just don't want another But What Does It MEAN???

I like those, but um, it's time to start wrapping those up, not adding more. :D

[JWBear]

They aged Ben's father.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Lazlo.

[JWBear]

Lazlo.

Roger.

[cirquelover]

Hmph, this was one of those non-Brad episodes of Lost. Ho hum. ;) :D

Will there be another one with you guest starring?!

[bewitched]

So, is the thing that sideways Desmond, in between episodes, has discovered enough about the "real" world that he's trying to kill Locke to have some sort of effect on either reality? I'm confused. :confused:

Such would be the implication. Or perhaps there really IS more than one Desmond floating around sideways world. Any shots of his left ring finger this episode?

Personally, I think the electromagnetic episode coupled with the encounter with Penny led to a melding of island and sideways Desmond minds (hence, knowing of his son, Charlie); that's why Eloise Hawking (Widmore) told him he wasn't ready to meet Penny yet, because she knew what would happen. I think that is one of the things that makes him special, he doesn't just remember island life he can interact with his "other". Reality for Desmond is fluid, just as it was in The Constant.

My 2 theories about him hitting Locke:

1. Desmond meant to kill Locke and therefore somehow negate MIB (now presumably stuck as NotLocke) at the same time. Note that he ran down sideways John Locke after it became clear that NotLocke was, well...not Locke.

2. Desmond hit sideways Locke with the intention of jolting an awareness of island Locke (or NotLocke, as the case may be) since it appears it either takes an interaction with a constant or a life/death experience to enlighten the sideways' conciousness of their island existence.

[Pirate Bill]

2. Desmond hit sideways Locke with the intention of jolting an awareness of island Locke (or NotLocke, as the case may be) since it appears it either takes an interaction with a constant or a life/death experience to enlighten the sideways' conciousness of their island existence.

That's what I'm thinking.

Other possibilities:

3. Desmond is trying to set the sideways world "right." Locke is supposed to be dead.

4. (This was mentioned on the Jay & Jack podcast) Desmond is trying to unite Locke and Jack and have Jack fix Locke's spine.

[innerSpaceman]

I'm cool with however this plays out, because running down sideLocke with a car, not to mention blowing up Iliana with errant dynamite, were two of the coolest things on LOST in ages!

[Pirate Bill]

Poor, poor hot Iliana.

[bewitched]

Poor, poor hot Iliana.


She was pretty hot.

[innerSpaceman]

Especially at the end.

[sleepyjeff]

Sneak Peak at next week:

Warning!!!!!!! Very Spoilerish!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFj8RdCsiZY

[BarTopDancer]

I just had a thought -

The Oceaniac 6 got back on the plane and ended up back on the island. Someone has to have noticed them missing by now. And was the Algeria Air crash reported on the news? That would be the second plane to go missing in 6 years and on that plane were the Oceaniac 6. So twice in 6 years there are 2 missing planes, and both planes were transporting [some of] the same people.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

excellent question

[katiesue]

But maybe them getting on the plane the second time and landing sets time back so maybe the second crash doesn't happen or maybe the first doesn't exist. Not explaining myself well. Maybe no one misses them because in a reset reality they're not missing. Does that make sense?

[Ghoulish Delight]

But maybe them getting on the plane the second time and landing sets time back so maybe the second crash doesn't happen or maybe the first doesn't exist. Not explaining myself well. Maybe no one misses them because in a reset reality they're not missing. Does that make sense?
I think the only answer that can be given right now is that we have no idea. Since the "flash sideways" story began, we've been kept in the dark about what is happening in the "real" timeline, whether that timeline even exists anymore, whether it ever existed. It's a complete unknown, they've given no clues in the show that would make any one answer more likely than another.

[BarTopDancer]

I think the only answer that can be given right now is that we have no idea. Since the "flash sideways" story began, we've been kept in the dark about what is happening in the "real" timeline, whether that timeline even exists anymore, whether it ever existed. It's a complete unknown, they've given no clues in the show that would make any one answer more likely than another.

Add to that, at the start of the season the island was underwater.

So, we have

An island that is now underwater after an H-bomb was set off (presuming it actually went off and they didn't 'jump' right before it exploded).

People who have been living on the [now] underwater island still living on the above ground island and somewhere else.

[bewitched]

I just had a thought -

The Oceaniac 6 got back on the plane and ended up back on the island. Someone has to have noticed them missing by now. And was the Algeria Air crash reported on the news? That would be the second plane to go missing in 6 years and on that plane were the Oceaniac 6. So twice in 6 years there are 2 missing planes, and both planes were transporting [some of] the same people.

I would guess that when the Ajira 316 airplane crash-landed on the island, the sideways timeline came into existence and in that existence, Oceanic 815 landed safely and Ajira 316 doesn't yet exist. So, as far as "news" goes, neither event happened and all of the Losties are where they should be (more or less).

I think this is what katiesue is also saying.

[bewitched]

Add to that, at the start of the season the island was underwater.

So, we have

An island that is now underwater after an H-bomb was set off (presuming it actually went off and they didn't 'jump' right before it exploded).

People who have been living on the [now] underwater island still living on the above ground island and somewhere else.


I think the island is only underwater if/when the sideways timeline is allowed to exist. Further, they aren't living on the island and somewhere else concurrently (at least based on given information). The sideways timeline is 3 years earlier than the island timeline which may or may not have ever existed to begin with (if the sideways timeline is allowed to continue).

Did that make sense?

[Ghoulish Delight]

That's what I'm thinking.

4. (This was mentioned on the Jay & Jack podcast) Desmond is trying to unite Locke and Jack and have Jack fix Locke's spine.
Point, PB.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Jack's line, "I guess we've all changed" highlighted just how long it's been, how much has happened, how strongly the characters have been developed...all in one line. Small dialogue touches like that make this show extra enjoyable.

Another example - Sawyer calling Lapidus "Chesty." :D

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I heard that the first time and had to replay it twice (thank you 8-second rewind TiVo!)

I don't get it. "Chesty" is usually given to a woman of "bountiful proportions", isn't it?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Lapidus always has his shirt open.

[sleepyjeff]

Oh shucks, can't take the sailboat to escape because they don't have the coordinates.......

So let me see if I have this straight.......in order to escape the Island by boat or helicopter you need the proper coordinates; but submarines and jet airplanes are exempt from this restriction??????

[Ghoulish Delight]

Oh shucks, can't take the sailboat to escape because they don't have the coordinates.......

So let me see if I have this straight.......in order to escape the Island by boat or helicopter you need the proper coordinates; but submarines and jet airplanes are exempt from this restriction??????
Submarine: The coordinates would be on the sub (one assumes that Whidmore would be planning to leave at some point).

Airplane: Smoked Lox might have the knowledge necessary.

[Stan4dSteph]

Locke probably figures he can get someone from Widmore's crew to tell him the coordinates. Or send Sayid in there to find them.

[Pirate Bill]

Raise your hand if you thought Sun & Jin were going to get killed by the sonic fence.

[sleepyjeff]

Submarine: The coordinates would be on the sub (one assumes that Whidmore would be planning to leave at some point).

Airplane: Smoked Lox might have the knowledge necessary.

Fair enough, I suppose.....just seems a bit contrived to me.

Speaking of contrivances, "Hey everyone, I saw some canned food down in the galley, all those except those needed for the next scene please follow me" :rolleyes:

[katiesue]

Raise your hand if you thought Sun & Jin were going to get killed by the sonic fence.

Yes - I was waiting for the big zap!

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Lapidus always has his shirt open.

That is entirely for my benefit.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Raise your hand if you thought Sun & Jin were going to get killed by the sonic fence.Hand raised

That is entirely for my benefit.
I wonder if James was aware of the irony of HIM calling someone "chesty".

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

I don't know if this is a virtual reality experiment, which has been suggested, but that might explain why the Asian dude's age is inconsistent. He may be a running part of the program, like a constant represented by a real person running the experiment, or someone completely fictional.

I really got the sense last night that the two timelines are headed for a convergence. It's like Desmond is readying the people in the alternate timeline for the final battle, as well. Had this feeling last night that a lot of the Losties on the Island were headed for their death scenes, and just when The Lockeness Monster thinks he's won, he'll be somehow faced with Losties from the alternate timeline, only they won't be so "alternate" anymore, as they will have come to remember their Island selves. Whether the alternate timeliners fly another plane, and Desmond makes it possible to both bring them into the future *and* to the existing Island, or whether The Lockeness Monster gets off the Island only to find that there are a group of people (people he thought had all been defeated) waiting for him on the "mainland", I do see the parallel universe converging somehow. It also felt like Juliette's last words, "It worked," had greater meaning.

And I may be way off base with all of this, but I do love the idea of the real John Locke in a mother ****ing showdown with The Lockeness Monster. There even seemed a hint of that in the way Smokey was talking about the real Locke. I had this, "Just you wait, tough speaker!" feeling. Then again, maybe real Locke was just a sucker. Heh.

And THEN they all realize they are in some sort of virtual reality experiment or game? Heh.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Hand raised


I wonder if James was aware of the irony of HIM calling someone "chesty".

I think that was an intended part of the funny.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I really got the sense last night that the two timelines are headed for a convergence. It's like Desmond is readying the people in the alternate timeline for the final battle, as well.Totally. Everyone's rallying at the hospital. Desmond is pretty much a less-subtle version of Jacob (lack of subtlety necessitated by his later start), "nudging" them all towards decisions and paths that bring them together. Can't wait to see what happens when they all get there.


And I may be way off base with all of this, but I do love the idea of the real John Locke in a mother ****ing showdown with The Lockeness Monster. There even seemed a hint of that in the way Smokey was talking about the real Locke. I had this, "Just you wait, tough speaker!" feeling. Then again, maybe real Locke was just a sucker. Heh.Anyone else catch the echo of episode 1. Whidmore blows up the beach, next thing you know, we're watching Jack wake up with muffled hearing, and Locke running around the beach being a helping hand. Felt real familiar. Smokey may turn out to be more like the real Locke than he realizes.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Raise your hand if you thought Sun & Jin were going to get killed by the sonic fence.Have to admit I was almost disappointed when they didn't, even though I have been dying to see them reunited. It would have been so awesomely tragic!

EH - love all that you said above, seemed that way to me as well. Really hoping for the redemption of true John Locke.

Did anyone figure out why the ep was called "Last Recruit"? I feel dumb...

[sleepyjeff]

Raise your hand if you thought Sun & Jin were going to get killed by the sonic fence.

High in the air:D



Did anyone figure out why the ep was called "Last Recruit"? I feel dumb...

I believe Jack was Locke's "last recruit".........at least that's my take on it.

[scaeagles]

I thought they were surely getting zapped. Hand raised.

I'm still going with the parallel dimension thing.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Is there also general agreement that Lockeness wasn't telling Jack the truth about Jack's dad, Christian? Because Lockeness cannot cross the water (he's trapped on the island and they've listed off his restrictions, etc.), but Christian appeared to Michael on the boat, and he appeared to Jack at the hospital, after Jack was rescued. So...methinks Lockeness is a liar.

[Gemini Cricket]

The building that they used for the pregnant lady/Desmond escalator scene is about five steps away from my office. The building is on Fort Street Mall.
:)

[sleepyjeff]

Is there also general agreement that Lockeness wasn't telling Jack the truth about Jack's dad, Christian? Because Lockeness cannot cross the water (he's trapped on the island and they've listed off his restrictions, etc.), but Christian appeared to Michael on the boat, and he appeared to Jack at the hospital, after Jack was rescued. So...methinks Lockeness is a liar.

At this late date one would think that big reveals like this should be the truth...but something doesn't add up....either Lockeness can move accross water and lied about that, he's lying and has never impersonated Christian, or he was telling the truth and has sometimes impersonated Christian.

Another funny thing though.....in both Locke and Christians case, MiB needed their bodies to impersonate them.....when he impersonated Eko's brother, there was a body also.....but how did he impersonate Richards wife on board the Black Rock?????

Kate's horse?


Something tells me MiB isn't the only one doing this.....

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

At this late date one would think that big reveals like this should be the truth...but something doesn't add up....either Lockeness can move accross water and lied about that, he's lying and has never impersonated Christian, or he was telling the truth and has sometimes impersonated Christian.

Another funny thing though.....in both Locke and Christians case, MiB needed their bodies to impersonate them.....when he impersonated Eko's brother, there was a body also.....but how did he impersonate Richards wife on board the Black Rock?????

Kate's horse?


Something tells me MiB isn't the only one doing this.....

Well, there are ghosts, too. Hurley saw Richard's wife, so maybe that really was Richard's wife. Heh. Who the eff knows.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Perhaps he doesn't need the body to simply impersonate someone, but needs the body to leave the island. Ilana implicated that by becoming Locke, MIB "trapped" himself, indicating that perhaps this incarnation is different than previous shapeshifting he's done.

[sleepyjeff]

Well, there are ghosts, too. Hurley saw Richard's wife, so maybe that really was Richard's wife. Heh. Who the eff knows.

I think it is pretty well established that it was indeed Richards wife that Hurley was talking too.....but when Richard was in chains.......who the eff knows;)

Perhaps he doesn't need the body to simply impersonate someone, but needs the body to leave the island. Ilana implicated that by becoming Locke, MIB "trapped" himself, indicating that perhaps this incarnation is different than previous shapeshifting he's done.

Yes, I think it must be something along those lines......who the eff really knows though:D

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

I think it is pretty well established that it was indeed Richards wife that Hurley was talking too.....but when Richard was in chains.......who the eff knows;)


Sorry, I meant that because Hurley saw the real wife, maybe Richard saw his real wife, too.

[sleepyjeff]

Sorry, I meant that because Hurley saw the real wife, maybe Richard saw his real wife, too.

Could be, it's just that why would a ghost pretend to be attacked?



My next puzzlement:

What was Widmore trying to accomplish with the bombardment of Team Flocke?

1) I don't think bombs really hurt this thing....

2) If Widmore is just trying to kill Flockes followers; why use non-lethal tranquilizers when taking Jin?

3) Could he have been trying to kill Jack?

[katiesue]

3) Could he have been trying to kill Jack?

I thought what's her name (I'm horrible with names) Widmore chick said something like "if you've got a line on Locke use it". Then they bombed em.

[innerSpaceman]

The building that they used for the pregnant lady/Desmond escalator scene is about five steps away from my office. The building is on Fort Street Mall.
:)

Yes, yes, well - you've had your 15 minutes of LOST Thread fame. Thanks for contributing your little "tid-bit." ahem.



so stick around and read if you care to ... and chime in again when your other blurry appearances airs, k? ((kisses))

[sleepyjeff]

I thought what's her name (I'm horrible with names) Widmore chick said something like "if you've got a line on Locke use it". Then they bombed em.

That's right, she did......now that I think about it, didn't Jack have some limited success against the smoke monster with dynomite back in season one?

Maybe Widmore does know what he's doing afterall......:confused:

[JWBear]

I think she said "If you have a lock on my position..."

[Ghoulish Delight]

I think she said "If you have a lock on my position..."
That's what she said when she showed up in Locke's camp and they bombed near it to scare him. But at the end of the episode when they fired again nearly hitting Locke and Jack she said "If you've got line of sight on Locke".

[JWBear]

That's what she said when she showed up in Locke's camp and they bombed near it to scare him. But at the end of the episode when they fired again nearly hitting Locke and Jack she said "If you've got line of sight on Locke".

Ah. I missed her saying that.

[sleepyjeff]

What I'd like to know now is why did they need the losties on their knees in order to launch the bombardment......?

[Ghoulish Delight]

What I'd like to know now is why did they need the losties on their knees in order to launch the bombardment......?
Standard hostage protocol. It wasn't "get them on their knees so we can launch," it was, "We're going to launch, make sure those guys we aren't going to have problems with those guys once we do."

[sleepyjeff]

Standard hostage protocol. It wasn't "get them on their knees so we can launch," it was, "We're going to launch, make sure those guys we aren't going to have problems with those guys once we do."

Yeah, that does make sense....I could just see one or many of them trying to stop the bombing bc of Jack.

[JWBear]

Read this on anther board, and it made me laugh.

Desmond's well is shrinking so he'll be out next week. Last week it was at least 100 feet deep, now it was only about 30. Next week he'll be sitting on a small hill.

[sleepyjeff]

Read this on anther board, and it made me laugh.

So true!!

Makes sense though....the Island itself is shrinking(in that way back in seasons 1 and 2 it would take several days to traverse the Island....now people are crisscrossing it back in forth in a single afternoon:rolleyes:

[scaeagles]

Time travel increases the rate of erosion on the beaches, therefore shrinking the size of the island. I thought that was obvious enough, silly.

[sleepyjeff]

^Of course! I should have known that:)

[JWBear]

I also liked the comment that, with all the money this show makes, they could have afforded more than $10 to build the well set.

[sleepyjeff]

I also liked the comment that, with all the money this show makes, they could have afforded more than $10 to build the well set.

So true.......

Leads me to believe the real reason Locke is the smoke monster is to simply save money on special effects:(

[innerSpaceman]

:confused: Don't get it. What would a really elaborate inside-of-a-well set look like?

[JWBear]

I was referring to the outside part. It looked like it was carved from Styrofoam - badly.

http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/ead21a65696461e67ff635618768b321.jpg

[sleepyjeff]

I wonder if we will ever get to see the other side of the outrigger chase from last season(5:4)



SAWYER: [from distance] Hello! [cut to group walking into their beach camp]

JULIET: Camp's back.

SAWYER: Finally, anybody for a Dharma beer? Hello? Anybody here? Rose? Bernard?

[As sawyer walks further into camp it is revealed to be desolate and untidy. Sawyer approaches the makeshift dining area where empty, dirty beer cans are strewn across its surface.]

LOCKE: I wonder how long ago this happened?

SAWYER: [frustrated at no beer] Son of a bitch!

[Locke bends to pick up a small noosed frayed old rope]

JULIET: What is it?

LOCKE: It's Vincent's.

SAWYER: [to Locke] Yeah? Well, where is the rest of the dog? Where's the rest of our people?

[Everyone in the party looks about the beach area. Daniel looks at the shoreline.]

DANIEL: The Zodiac's gone too.

CHARLOTTE: Maybe your people took the boat.

[Sawyer passes everyone and goes to where they left the Zodiac raft.]

SAWYER: Why the hell they would they do that?

MILES: To get away from whoever came in those.

[Miles is pointing to two outriggers laying upright on the beach. The group walks over toward them.]

CHARLOTTE: Where did these come from?

DANIEL: That's a good question. They're pretty old.

[Miles picks up a bottle with liquid in it from one of the outriggers.]

MILES: Not that old.

SAWYER: Let me see that.

[The bottle has a label on it that read Ajira. Under the name is written 'water'.]

SAWYER: Adg..uh…ruh.

JULIET: Ajira. It's an airline. It's based out of India but they fly everywhere.

SAWYER: Great. Maybe they got a flight out of here to Vegas tonight.

[Sawyer tosses the bottle back in the outrigger and looks at Juliet.]

SAWYER: Who came in these? Other Others?

JULIET: Don't look at me.

DANIEL: My question is, when are they coming back?

LOCKE: Let's not wait to find out.

[Locke points to the outriggers with his open arms. He looks at the rest of the group, nods and they proceed to take one of the outriggers. They drag the outrigger to the water. Next we see them in the ocean and they are all paddling.]

MILES: This plan sounded a hell of a lot better when we were going by motorboat. How far is this place?

LOCKE: Around that point. Not more than a couple of hours.

MILES: Oh joy.

[Sawyer is seated last in the outrigger. Juliet is sitting in front of him. She turns and looks at Sawyer.]

JULIET: Are you alright?

SAWYER: I saw Kate.

JULIET: What?

SAWYER: Last night, in the jungle [pause] before the last flash. She was delivering Claire's baby.

JULIET: But that was two months ago.

SAWYER: [shakes head] Time travel's a bitch.

[A gunshot is heard from behind the outrigger. Everyone ducks.]

CHARLOTTE: Get down!

[Another gunshot is heard.]

SAWYER: Paddle!

[Everyone begins paddling frantically.]

MILES: I think they want their boat back!

LOCKE: Move!

[Another gunshot is heard. Sawyer looks back and sees an outrigger chasing them. We cannot tell who is in the second outrigger. Another gunshot is heard.]

MILES: These your people?

JULIET: No! Are they yours?

SAWYER: Shut up and keep paddling!

[Another gunshot is heard hitting the water. Everyone paddles harder. Another gunshot takes off the tip of Sawyer's paddle which is on the left side of the outrigger.]

SAWYER: A little help! A little help!

[Yet another gunshot. Juliet takes the rifle which was lying on the floor of the outrigger, cocks it and aims at the outrigger that is chasing them. She takes three shots. The second outrigger returns a shot. It sounds as if it ricochets.]

SAWYER: Paddle harder they're getting closer!

[The buzzing sound that occurs prior to a flash is beginning. Locke pauses a second, looks around and listens. The white light is beginning and Juliet is blinded by it. She stops shooting the rifle. Miles bends over in pain. Daniel covers his ears. The flash starts.]

SAWYER: Thank you Lord!

[The time skip happens and when it is complete the group is still in the ocean, however it is night time. It is raining and we hear thunder and see flashes of lightning. The ocean is rough.] Sawyer looks up to the sky.]

SAWYER: I take that back.

LOCKE: Everybody paddle! Head for the shore!

[Everyone continues to paddle. It is difficult to see where they are going]

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I'm just annoyed that the boat time traveled with them.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Which boat? The sailboat that they just took to Whidmore? No time travel necessary, they're back on the original timeline.

[sleepyjeff]

Which boat? The sailboat that they just took to Whidmore? No time travel necessary, they're back on the original timeline.

No, the outrigger from last season when they were unstuck in time.

[sleepyjeff]

I'm just annoyed that the boat time traveled with them.

Yes, I found that a bit annoying too.....makes me wonder if Locke would have held Richards hand back at Jughead what would have happened.

[RStar]

I forgot to watch for GC last week. Did he get aired or cut? Last time he was almost over shadowed by a Hobbit, so who knows what can happen on TV? ;)

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Which boat? The sailboat that they just took to Whidmore? No time travel necessary, they're back on the original timeline.Sorry, should have quoted.

No, the outrigger from last season when they were unstuck in time.Yes, that.

Yes, I found that a bit annoying too.....makes me wonder if Locke would have held Richards hand back at Jughead what would have happened.Holding hands and paddles, sure. But sitting on something? Maybe they were shown grabbing the boat?

They do have to allow for inanimate objects, otherwise you end up with Time Traveler's Wife nakedness on arrival.

[innerSpaceman]

I see nothing wrong with "sitting on" as a come-along-with-me through time option. Clothes are doing nothing but touching you in various places, and are as inanimate as a piece of wood or fiberglass.

We may bemoan the lack of scientifically and visually more satisfying TTW nakedness, but once clothes are along for the ride - well, in for a penny, in for a pound. Outriggers, passenger jets, it's all good.

[CoasterMatt]

Spoilered for anybody not caught up to date with Lost...

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/coastermatt/images/imadethis.jpg

:)

[innerSpaceman]

Bwahahahaha! :D

[sleepyjeff]

:snap:

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Visible CoasterMatt mojo. Funniest thing I've seen in ages!

[scaeagles]

Is tonight really NOT a new episode? Showed up on my listing as not being new tonight.

[innerSpaceman]

?!?!?!!!!
:confused:

[Ghoulish Delight]

Bah! It seems that it is not, they're showing the "enhanced" version of Richardocus' episode. Don't want to compete with NBA perhaps?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

LAAAAAME. Movie night? Perhaps we should all post here what we end up watching instead. :)

crap haven't sent back netflix yet

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Spoilered for anybody not caught up to date with Lost...

:)

**** yeah.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

I hate LoT censorship. Heh.

[innerSpaceman]

Well, I will just continue to work on my photo project, but that's what made me miss last weeks - I was so involved with it - and so I was determined to remember tonight.


Fine.

[CoasterMatt]

I'm putting together a couple more music compilations tonight, and maybe I'll work on some photos.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

why was he called Ricardus <sp?> if his original name was Ricardo? Isn't Ricardus the Latin version of Richard? I realize he's Latino, but that's really not the same thing.I may have figured this out. I remember Juliet speaking Latin. She said The Others used it as a secret language or something like that. Perhaps they got to know him as "Ricardus" whilst speaking Latin and it just stuck?

[bewitched]

Olivia was happy- she got to see Glee tonight instead of Thursday.

[Ghoulish Delight]

We watched a recorded episode Into the Universe with Steven Hawking instead.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Stopped on the way home from my meeting to pick up last night's chef's salad in preparation for Lost, got home, split salad in half, enhanced with Garlic Cheddar ThinKrisps™, made iced tea, settled into the couch to watch the last 15 minutes of the ******** episode of South Park, and then Lost - wha? WTF? Did one of my roommates erase it? Did the DVR record something else instead? WTFWTFWTF!!!

Oh.

Internet on my phone tells me other people got a repeat of the Richard episode. They were confused as well.

I hate when the flash-sidewayses happen in real life.

The salad was good. From Twain's, on Ventura at Coldwater. Only because it's the closest coffee shop open late. I was expecting terrible, but edible. I got very good. Except the tomato. Tomato was onion flavored, probably because it was ready to go on a burger and the cook grabbed it instead of slicing a new tomato. I will happily order this chef's salad again. So far, ranking best to least best - Junior's Deli ****, Twain's ***3/4, Norm's***1/2, Astro***, Bob's**. Today, I plan on having the one at the Carnation restaurant on Main Street. I hope it's a solid 5 asterisks.

I wish I had some Dharma Brand ranch dressing.

[innerSpaceman]

So my friend is hosting a LOST Supper dinner party and final episode viewing, featuring all sorts of LOST-themed foods and .... it's a costume party!!

Yay. Um, but I have no idea which Lostie or vague supporting character I should be, and who I might be even remotely convincing as.


Suggestions????

[Cadaverous Pallor]

So my friend is hosting a LOST Supper dinner party and final episode viewing, featuring all sorts of LOST-themed foods and .... it's a costume party!!

Yay. Um, but I have no idea which Lostie or vague supporting character I should be, and who I might be even remotely convincing as.


Suggestions????You're kidding, right?? Charlie, baby, you gotta go as Charlie. Start working on your accent.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Junior's Deli ****, Twain's ***3/4, Norm's***1/2, Astro***, Bob's**. Them's some odd swear words, but hey, express yourself however you see fit.

[Ghoulish Delight]

So my friend is hosting a LOST Supper dinner party and final episode viewing, featuring all sorts of LOST-themed foods and .... it's a costume party!!

Yay. Um, but I have no idea which Lostie or vague supporting character I should be, and who I might be even remotely convincing as.


Suggestions????
Smoke monster

[Cadaverous Pallor]

http://bearsuit.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/polar-bear-suit.jpg

You know everyone is going to do this.

[BarTopDancer]

A random Other that was never seen again. Or Ben's father.

[scaeagles]

You kind of have a Faraday-ish look about you. I say Daniel Faraday.

[Pirate Bill]

Log carrying guy. Try not to get shot though.

[sleepyjeff]

Did anyone watch the repeat show?

I did, and guess what......they cut at least two scenes.....for extra commercials I guess:mad:

The scene in which Hurley was talking to Richards wife and Jack interupted thinking Hurley was speaking to Jacob.........cut.....entirely!

The scene that took place in the Doctors home.....in the orginal there was a brief discussion about how far away Richard lived and how the weather was not good for travel.......in Tuesday nights they went straight from blankets being requested for the floor to the medicine.

You would think a class operation like Lost would want to give you extra scenes in a repeat.....nope, extra commercials instead...(end rant)

[JWBear]

It probably wasn't up to the producers. More than likely it was either the network or local affiliate that did it.

[innerSpaceman]

Wow, that sucks about the repeat. Glad I gave it a pass.

* * * * * * *

Thanks for the costume suggestions so far. Very helpful.


Of course, with my slender build, Charlie and Faraday are the obvious choices. I don't have Charlie's nose tho. Not by a long shot. So I may do Faraday, but I just cut my hair short - ugh. Just in case I go for either of those, I've already started letting my beard grow - since it will take an entire month of I-Can't-Stand-It to even get remotely scruffy enough. Bah.


Love the polar bear idea. Along those lines, I was wondering if there's a chicken-mascot costume for the chicken place Hurley worked at. Or, heheh, I could get a Hurley wig and go COMPLETELY against body type AS Hurley. Hahahaha.


Unless I come up with something funnier, I'm gonna shoot for Faraday with Charlie as a back-up. Problem with most of the Lost cast is, for the most part, they don't wear anything iconic that identifies them through clothing.

A Dharma jumpsuit might be nice. But otherwise, not much info transmitted through costume.

[sleepyjeff]

It probably wasn't up to the producers. More than likely it was either the network or local affiliate that did it.

That's probably true.......our oldest local station still shows repeats of Perry Mason every weekday but cuts a good 7 minutes from each episode. I never realized it until one day the killer confessing in the courtroom was the first time she was even on screen:eek:

[sleepyjeff]

* * * * * * *


Unless I come up with something funnier, I'm gonna shoot for Faraday with Charlie as a back-up. Problem with most of the Lost cast is, for the most part, they don't wear anything iconic that identifies them through clothing.



Go for the simple.....just wear a red shirt:D

[sleepyjeff]

http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/Lost/easy_e/which-lost-character-are-you-long/

[Ghoulish Delight]

lol.

I got a tie between Boone and Michael.

[mousepod]

I took the quiz... I'm... Boone. Really?

[Frikitiki]

I got a Jack...as he forloningly looks into the sack he's carrying.

[sleepyjeff]

I took the quiz... I'm... Boone. Really?

I was Boone too, followed by Locke......I was least like Kate:)

[innerSpaceman]

Apparently, I'm Jack.

I swear I answered all questions honesty.



I was LEAST like Charlie (at 31%). Faraday wasn't on the list.

[scaeagles]

I was 81% Jack, 75% Hurley, 67% Sawyer.

Fun quiz.

[sleepyjeff]

I took it again but this time went all 'yes' or all 'no'....no wishy-washy answers....

I am now Ana Lucia, but I am still least like Kate:)

[ToriBear]

I was 81% Ben, 75% Locke, 75% Jack.

That was a fun quiz!

[scaeagles]

WB, your daughter is seriously messed up if she is 81% Ben. I'd run and hide if I were you.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I think by definition all teenagers are at least 73% Ben.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Shannon?? :eek:

Actually, 3 way tie between Shannon, Michael, and Locke. Whatever that means...

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

So my friend is hosting a LOST Supper dinner party and final episode viewing, featuring all sorts of LOST-themed foods and .... it's a costume party!!

Yay. Um, but I have no idea which Lostie or vague supporting character I should be, and who I might be even remotely convincing as.


Suggestions????

BEN!

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

I got Michael.

Prepare to get gut shot, bitches!

[Ghoulish Delight]

As long as you eventually feel really bad about it.

[Cynthia]

I got: Boone 75% Jin 69% Jack 63% - So I am the nice guy who tries hard but basically is an clueless - least like Kate -sigh
I am doomed

fun quiz yes

[Cadaverous Pallor]

BEN!Heh, bespectacled, bookish teacher Ben would be a fun one. Bloodied tortured not-yet-Ben might get mistaken for any other character.

I still think Charlie is the best because of the costume. Rings, letters written on knuckles, short blond hair, rocker shirt, slashed jeans, maybe a small guitar prop. If you get crafty you could make one of those clay madonnas with little bags inside...

[JWBear]

Jin 81%
Boone 81%
Hurley 75%
Kate 75%
Shannon 75%
Ben 69%
Michael 69%
Jack 69%
Sayid 63%
Mr. Eko 44%
Claire 44%
Desmond 44%
Ana Lucia 38%
Charlie 38%
Locke 31%
Sawyer 31%
Sun 25%

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Heh, bespectacled, bookish teacher Ben would be a fun one. Bloodied tortured not-yet-Ben might get mistaken for any other character.

I still think Charlie is the best because of the costume. Rings, letters written on knuckles, short blond hair, rocker shirt, slashed jeans, maybe a small guitar prop. If you get crafty you could make one of those clay madonnas with little bags inside...

Charlie dressed like a D-bag rocker because he was a D-bag rocker. Boring costume! Unless you apply some sort of wet looking substance, made yourself look a bit blue-ish, and had "NOT PENNY'S BOAT" written on your hand... That would be cool.

I know, go as Charlie's heroine Mary statue!

[mousepod]

I have such a good suggestion for iSm, but will have to self-censor.

(No wonder I hardly post anymore)

[innerSpaceman]

You can PM me. ;)


OMG, drowning charlie is an hysterical idea!

Bookish Ben? Dunno. But i LOVE Ben.

[scaeagles]

I know! You could be the male prostitute that the big guy with the mustache was with when off the island that one time. Don't remember the episode title or who he met in the hotel (I remember there was a knock on the door and it was someone of significance, so the male prositute excused himself).

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Mr. Friendly aka Tom

I don't remember his "companion" being a prostitute though. I got the impression they were lovers. Didn't they kiss? Whores charge a whole lot more for kissing.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Yeah, they were friendly, definitely lovers.

[scaeagles]

I had just made the assumption that since Tom (thanks - spaced his name) was rarely off the island that it wasn't a relationship, more of a....uh....special treat one timer kind of thing.

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmmm, I charge a lot more for kissing, too. We may have something here. :p

[bewitched]

Hmm...I was asked to answer a tie breaker question of "Grew up wealthy" or "Leader" but still had an odd tie for first:

Jack 81%
Sun 81%
Hurley 75%
Locke 69%
Ben 69%
Sayid 69%
Michael 69%
Shannon 63%
Boone 63%
Kate 63%
Mr. Eko 56%
Sawyer 56%
Jin 44%
Ana Lucia 38%
Charlie 38%
Desmond 19%

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Lost co-creator Damon Lindelof: Ending will prompt more questions (http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/lost-producer-ending-will-prompt-more-questions.html)

[mousepod]

Way to go, Damon. Here's the deal: I have $194.99 that I'll spend on the complete series on blu-ray if I'm satisfied with the ending. If I'm not... the money will be most likely spent on frivolous nonsense that Mr. Lindelof has no stake in.

I'll be watching...

[scaeagles]

He will be a very hated man if he blows this.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I'm Hurley, but only with a tiebreaker; I'm 75% Hurley and 75% Jack.

[sleepyjeff]

HAPPY LOST DAY!!!!

We're getting really close to the end:)

[innerSpaceman]

Crikey, I almost forgot. See what one week off will do to an addled mind like mine?




(I'm used to watching the show on DVD, and truthfully I like it a whole lot better that way. But there's no way I couldn't experience the final season "live." Thanks for the reminder. If I also win the lottery, this will be a splendid evening.)

[sleepyjeff]

Good luck on the lottery! What's it up to down there?

[katiesue]

266 Million

[scaeagles]

That was brutal.

[innerSpaceman]

Cheap shot. And i think i'm kinda mad.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Holy ****ing heartache. Sun, Jin, Sayid, and my beloved Frank, and KATE still lives? The inhumanity! Of course, it can all disappear in a twist. But Jesus Crisro!

[innerSpaceman]

It kind of boils my blood that they'd spend 2 seasons of this show milking the torn-apart lovers only 2 kill them ten minutes after they finally find each other.

If it had been done for comedy, I'd have thought it brilliant. But in fact, it's cheap-shot writing that I am very disappointed in. I can't think of the death of any other well-liked character(s) that would come off nearly so dishonest and foul.

Between this and the report that the finale will bust open even more questions, I'm getting pretty annoyed with this show. In one hour, I've gone from being really sad it's about to end to really wanting it to just be over.


Good episode. That I really.didn't.like.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

It's not that I don't disagree with you, ism. Cheap shot came to mind for sure. But I wasn't that surprised I guess. I think I may need to wait until the end of the season to really know how I feel about this episode.

[BarTopDancer]

WTF Lost!

Break my heart and then do it over, over and over again. This isn't a shampoo bottle. There is no lather, rinse, repeat when it comes to this. Stop it!

In the Lostverse they died. In alterna-verse we see Jin walking down the hall with a stuffed animal. I hope he is going to Sun, and not on the errand for his boss.

I have to say ToQ is deliciously creepy yet I want to smack that smirk off of him. This is HIS FAULT! Selfish bastard!

[bewitched]

I am so, so glad Sayid was redeemed. (Losing his redemption early in the season was so very heartbreaking IMO since he seemed, to me, the one who had redeemed himself the most.)

Frankly, by this point, Jin was kind of annoying me. Still sad about her dying and glad she's still sideways alive.

I just about lost it when Hurley, then Jack, started bawling.

Kate, you can't have Jack back. He is better than you. Deal.

Frank L. may be dead, but it seems like we have another pilot in the house...wonder how that's going to play out.