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Old 09-11-2008, 11:39 AM   #711
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:43 AM   #712
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While the message I got out of sex ed was, "Promiscuous sex is risky. It's really risky. My god it's risky. So risky that we're going to spend hours and hours explaining what you'd need to do to protect yourself. Look, here's some horrific pictures of what happens if you fail to protect yourself. If you have sex, no matter how hard you try to be safe, this will always be a risk."

What better promotion of abstinence can there be?
Being that this involves high school males, speaking from experience, what they hear is

"blhblha SEX sblahbakhbkl. blaablhbhabba bablb bahlb labhlhblhb ablhlhbah blbhbla blabhblb ablh h SEX sblahbakhbkl. blaablhbhabba bablb bahlb labhlhblhb ablhlhbah blbhbla blabhblb ablh h ."
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:46 AM   #713
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I remember being taught pretty young, about bathing suit zones and what was appropriate touching and what was not appropriate touching. It was definitely in the 1st grade, kindergarten, pre-school days. AND this was at a strict Catholic school.

And when we were taught the bird and the bees in grade school, there was always the caveat of "If you're having sex..." before everything. Abstinence was taught as well as condom use. AND this was at a strict Catholic school.

Just sayin'.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:50 AM   #714
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Being that this involves high school males, speaking from experience, what they hear is

"blhblha SEX sblahbakhbkl. blaablhbhabba bablb bahlb labhlhblhb ablhlhbah blbhbla blabhblb ablh h SEX sblahbakhbkl. blaablhbhabba bablb bahlb labhlhblhb ablhlhbah blbhbla blabhblb ablh h ."
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:54 AM   #715
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I am offended at your blatant linkage of teenage males to dogs! Are you equating teenage males with dogs?

OK, maybe it's not that much of a stretch.

I withdraw my outrage.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:03 PM   #716
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Being that this involves high school males, speaking from experience, what they hear is

"blhblha SEX sblahbakhbkl. blaablhbhabba bablb bahlb labhlhblhb ablhlhbah blbhbla blabhblb ablh h SEX sblahbakhbkl. blaablhbhabba bablb bahlb labhlhblhb ablhlhbah blbhbla blabhblb ablh h ."
I'm actually shocked any adolescent male would hear

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blhblhasblahbakhbkl. blaablhbhabba bablb bahlb labhlhblhb ablhlhbah blbhbla blabhblb ablh h sblahbakhbkl. blaablhbhabba bablb bahlb labhlhblhb ablhlhbah blbhbla blabhblb ablh h
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:08 PM   #717
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You had 9 WEEKS of sex ed? Wow. We had a 1/2 session I think twice - once in elementry and once in jr. high.
5th grade it was a half day;
7th grade it was 2 or 3 weeks
10th grade it was an entire term(although it wasn't, I must admit, just about sex itself, there was the whole miracle of birth stuff in there too)

Oddly enough, drivers ed was only 2 weeks......you would think that, seeing how for every teen who has their life destroyed by sex there are hundreds more who have it snuffed out by driving that the schools would concentrate their efforts a little more on that(if saving lives really is their primary motivation)

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While the message I got out of sex ed was, "Promiscuous sex is risky. It's really risky. My god it's risky. So risky that we're going to spend hours and hours explaining what you'd need to do to protect yourself. Look, here's some horrific pictures of what happens if you fail to protect yourself. If you have sex, no matter how hard you try to be safe, this will always be a risk."

What better promotion of abstinence can there be?
Well, my sex ed was right during the early stages of AIDS, different times and different schools. I am sure most people have different 1st hand accounts unless they were in the same class together(and even then...)
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What's wrong with teaching kindergarteners about age-appropriate information regarding sex, relationships, and reproduction?

Dr. Laura started talking to her son, Derek, about sex-related things VERY early on, just as part of his growing up. As a really young kid, when he was learning about body parts and about his normal bodily functions, she didn't mask words related to certain body parts, she just used normal words. And as he grew up she helped explain to him about how babies are created, and what happens during pregnancy, etc. and I believe he was probably only around 7 or 8 when he learned that some women have their pregnancies terminated (she let him come to his own realization that a woman ending a pregnancy meant she was having the "baby inside the mother" killed)... learning about sex and reproduction as part of life and growing up, as part of a whole, and understanding how integral relationships are to sex, was the way she chose to teach her son.

As much as I can't stand Dr. Laura, I completely agree. At five and half, Indi is very well versed in sex because he showed an interest early on. He knows how people have sex, that sometimes men and women have sex, sometimes men and men, sometimes women and women, etc. We've talked about the difference between love and lust, some of what happens during puberty, etc. It's always been very casual and has come up naturally.

I hold no delusions that he'll wait until adulthood to start having sex. But I am pretty confident that when he's a teen we'll still be able to talk openly about sex and all that comes with it.

I'm wondering when the right will start thinking of these things in terms of solutions to problems and not what fits into their moral code that they somehow feel justified in inflicting on our whole society.
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Old 09-11-2008, 03:15 PM   #719
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