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innerSpaceman · 09-29-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma

He might go around blaming Pelosi and Obama, but it just makes him look bad.

Especially when 60% of the Democrats voted for the bailout bill, but only 33% of Republicans did. Jeebus, John.

As the great de-regulator, you would have been badly enough off with just the economic crisis of 2008 ... but you had to make a spectacle of running to Washington and dropping everything (except Katie Couric) to solve the economic crisis ... and the most leadership you have to show for it is only one-third of your party supporting your solution, compared to nearly two-thirds of the opposition.

I think John McCain should pull the covers up over his head before he blunders this election any more.

TeeHee, bless you, John.

scaeagles · 09-30-2008, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma

It's not really all his fault; Republicans in a close race that are running this year are voting against it. But it still makes him look petty.

I believe that Pelosi gave her divisive speech on the floor prior to the vote for the specific purpose of wanting republicans to vote against it. The more I think about it, the more I believe she (and dem politicians in general) want this to continue until the election.

scaeagles · 09-30-2008, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Especially when 60% of the Democrats voted for the bailout bill, but only 33% of Republicans did. Jeebus, John.

Hold on....why, then were the republicans blamed when McCains bill in regard to reigning in Freddie and Fannie failed? Didn't get out of committee, but MOST of the republicans voted to get it out of committee and MOST of the dems voted to kill it.

If the dems wanted it to pass, there is nothing the republicans could have done to stop it. Nothing. They even have a guaranteed signature from Bush. They don't want it to pass.

innerSpaceman · 09-30-2008, 07:49 AM

Who blamed the Republicans for that? Was it Barack Obama???

It's seeming a little infantile of you to be changing the subject like that.

There, I'll concede that politicians wrongly blame the other side of the aisle on a routine basis, all in craven partisan lyinghood.

Now, can we address the subject of what a bonehead John McCain continues to be about the economic crisis, and how his every chosen move just digs him deeper into the hole of unelectability?

Or would you like to discuss mitochondria?

Gemini Cricket · 09-30-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Or would you like to discuss mitochondria?

I'll field this one, Leo.
Mitochondria is a cell's power station of sorts. It has two membranes. They can be round or elongated...

innerSpaceman · 09-30-2008, 08:07 AM

Is that the celluar equivalent of cut or uncut? Or is this getting too esoteric?

Ghoulish Delight · 09-30-2008, 08:39 AM

Mitochondria are what make Jedis.

scaeagles · 09-30-2008, 09:24 AM

ISM, this was a recent subject regarding McCain's attempt in 2005 to get some reigns on Freddie and Fannie. It was pointed out to me that the republicans could have passed it at that point in time without one dem vote but it didn't even make it to the floor.

Only bringing it up in that context of who is really in control of this process.

innerSpaceman · 09-30-2008, 09:52 AM

Apples (from the Riley Farm) and Oranges. A bill not making it out of committee has absolutely nothing to do with a situation where Republicans desperately seeking reelection won't go along with their party mandate when a bill is on the floor.

In fact, more Democrats would have voted for the bill had not so many Republicans voted against it. Midway through the voting, the word went out to the Dems from their leadership that they could vote their conscience, since Republicans were not supporting their party line.

So the only thing Pelosi had to do with the result was perhaps that less Democrats voted for the bailout than would have otherwise. She had zero to do with Republicans voting two thirds against it.

I fail to see the applicability of your comparison, and I call official shenanigans on you, Sir.

scaeagles · 09-30-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

In fact, more Democrats would have voted for the bill had not so many Republicans voted against it.

HA! A claim of shenanigans from someone using how the republicans voted to justify the dems not passing it? THAT'S funny. That's Kerry-esque.

I see your shenanigans and raise you two more, sir!

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Who blamed the Republicans for that? Was it Barack Obama??? It's seeming a little infantile of you to be changing the subject like that. There, I'll concede that politicians wrongly blame the other side of the aisle on a routine basis, all in craven partisan lyinghood. Now, can we address the subject of what a bonehead John McCain continues to be about the economic crisis, and how his every chosen move just digs him deeper into the hole of unelectability? Or would you like to discuss mitochondria?
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Is that the celluar equivalent of cut or uncut? Or is this getting too esoteric?
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	ISM, this was a recent subject regarding McCain's attempt in 2005 to get some reigns on Freddie and Fannie. It was pointed out to me that the republicans could have passed it at that point in time without one dem vote but it didn't even make it to the floor. Only bringing it up in that context of who is really in control of this process.
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09-30-2008, 09:52 AM	#2089
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Apples (from the Riley Farm) and Oranges. A bill not making it out of committee has absolutely nothing to do with a situation where Republicans desperately seeking reelection won't go along with their party mandate when a bill is on the floor. In fact, more Democrats would have voted for the bill had not so many Republicans voted against it. Midway through the voting, the word went out to the Dems from their leadership that they could vote their conscience, since Republicans were not supporting their party line. So the only thing Pelosi had to do with the result was perhaps that less Democrats voted for the bailout than would have otherwise. She had zero to do with Republicans voting two thirds against it. I fail to see the applicability of your comparison, and I call official shenanigans on you, Sir.
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