The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

People like O'Donnel want to impose their narrow version of Christianity on the entire nation, and outlaw everything else. They want it to be law....They want us all to live under a fundamentalist Christian sharia law.

You say this with the same proof as people who claim Obama is a Muslim.

After a very brief and completely not thorough search, I find I wasn't too far off, but my data (based on this one citing) is about a year old.

From a recent CNN story:

The poll -- which combines two surveys conducted from July to September of this year -- found that 42 percent of Americans favor same-sex marriage, while 48 percent oppose it.

In polls conducted in 2009, 37 percent favored gay marriage while 54 percent were opposed, Pew said.

Not too far off the 20% I referenced off the top of my head, but again, a year old.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

You say this with the same proof as people who claim Obama is a Muslim.

After a very brief and completely not thorough search, I find I wasn't too far off, but my data (based on this one citing) is about a year old.

From a recent CNN story:


Not too far off the 20% I referenced off the top of my head, but again, a year old.

The proof I have is reading what they themselves have written.

As for the poll numbers... What does it really matter anyway? Are we to begin only giving rights that the majority approves of? I don't think I want to live in your America.

Now... I want to respond to your previous message regarding separation of church and state. You stated that this is viewed as hostility towards religion. Hogwash! It’s respecting the religious rights of all people. One of the main purposes of that 1st amendment clause is to protect the religious minorities (including those who profess no religion) from the majority using government power to persecute them. Being a Christian does not give you the right to use the government to persecute those you disagree with. This same protection, by the way, keeps Christians from being persecuted too. It’s a two way street. The 1st Amendment guarantees that all religions belief is equal under the eyes of the law, and that no religion belief is promoted over any other. The separation of church and state protects everyone.

They have every right to profess that homosexuality is a sin. What they do not have the right to do is make their belief law. And I am aware of no law in this country that punishes “hate speech”. Would you care to elaborate?

And while you are at it, can you please explain just who is trying to remove crosses from Arlington? Or any of those “any number of things” you claim are persecuting Christians? What Christians have been forced to stop peacefully worshiping as they see fit? Please name the churches that have been raided; the ministers or congregants that have been jailed for their beliefs.

I can give you any number of examples of non-Christians being persecuted by Christian majorities.

Claiming that not having the right to force everyone to follow their narrow view of Christianity is somehow denying them their freedom of religion is the same as someone who kills another person with a gun claiming that laws against murder infringe on their 2nd Amendment rights.