WTF Stories of the Week

[JWBear]

Again... All fine and good, but still not the point. Here it is in big letters:

Straight people display, show, demonstrate, proclaim, (insert whatever word you want) their sexuality every single day that they are alive; regardless of whether or not they realize it.

Can I say it any simpler? I know it may be obvious for some, but I am speaking to those who claim they do not.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Again... All fine and good, but still not the point. Here it is in big letters:

Straight people display, show, demonstrate, proclaim, (insert whatever word you want) their sexuality every single day that they are alive; regardless of whether or not they realize it.

Can I say it any simpler? I know it may be obvious for some, but I am speaking to those who claim they do not.

Sigh. You're clearly angry, and not really reading what I'm saying, so I'll drop it.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Sigh. You're clearly angry, and not really reading what I'm saying, so I'll drop it.

No, I am not angry... Frustrated, but not angry.

I am reading what you are saying. Are you reading what I am saying? You're posts, while well written and engaging, have very little to do with what I am talking about.

Betty stated that she did not "proclaim" her sexuality. While the word was a bit hyperbolic, it was obvious she was not using the exact, Websters approved, definition of "proclaim", but more along the lines of "demonstrate" or "exhibit". I responded to that. My main point (again, for anyone who missed it) was to show her that, yes indeed, she exhibits signs of her sexuality all the time. All straight people do - all humans do.

Then there was the post that dismissed my words, merely because of the use of the word "proclaim". I found it petty and insulting. If you want to debate me, debate the context of what I said. Dismissing the subject of a post merely because of one (debatably) misused word is lazy and irritating.

Then I was told, by someone else, that I was attacking Betty, and telling her she could not talk about her husband. WTF?

Then, despite repeating and rephrasing my point over and over, I’m bombarded with posts that are irrelevant to what I am trying to say?

No… I’ll drop it. I’ll be a good little faggot, and go crawl back into my second class hole, lined with the best of double standards and guarded by the sentinels of majority smugness and indifference.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Then, despite repeating and rephrasing my point over and over, I’m bombarded with posts that are irrelevant to what I am trying to say?

Well, perhaps we're just talking at two different points. I just don't understand yelling your point at me when, in each one of my posts, I not only did not DENY the point you've made, I've actually pretty explicitly backed it up.

I'm responding to the original story, the specific case of someone explicitly saying, "I'm a lesbian" in a public profile. It's a case that is not analogous to the everyday types of subtle, unconscious expression of sexuality that we engage in. It's a statement that I think deserves further examination beyond the indignant, "RESPECT MY RIGHT TO BE NORMAL JUST LIKE EVERYONE!" because it does occupy a gray area that our society, even those of us who DO respect your rights, isn't equipped to handle cleanly.

And while the pedantry of "imply" vs. "declare" may not have been directly related to the side conversation between you and Betty, it DOES have important implications to the larger topic at hand.

[Betty]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I’ll be a good little faggot, and go crawl back into my second class hole, lined with the best of double standards and guarded by the sentinels of majority smugness and indifference.

Do you really mean this? That all or most of here feel that you're some sort of second class citizen deserving of poor treatment and double standards? Or are you venting your frustration at the world in a more general sense?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Betty

Do you really mean this? That all or most of here feel that you're some sort of second class citizen deserving of poor treatment and double standards? Or are you venting your frustration at the world in a more general sense?

No, dear lady. Fear not.

When one realizes that one is engaged in a pointless conversation, the best one can do is to bow out with all the wit and flare at ones disposal. To leave ones opponents confused is the best revenge.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

(speaking only for myself)
Because I fear for my safety and/or personal property. Obviously, this varies geographically, but only in the gayest of gay neighborhoods would I feel comfortable exercising my right to a PDA with my sweetheart. Hell, even WeHo has its share of gay bashings.

Originally Posted by JWBear

Again... All fine and good, but still not the point. Here it is in big letters:

Straight people display, show, demonstrate, proclaim, (insert whatever word you want) their sexuality every single day that they are alive; regardless of whether or not they realize it.

Can I say it any simpler? I know it may be obvious for some, but I am speaking to those who claim they do not.

Heterosexuals proclaim their sexuality daily but homosexuals don't because of fear? (I'm just connecting these two thoughts from two different people but I see a correlation.)

I understand the frustration of homosexuals, however, the solution seems to be to ignore the fear and proclaim away. But, if you make the choice NOT to proclaim yourself then you've made that choice and really can't complain about it. It's not like it is illegal to hold hands or kiss in public. Really, do you REALLY think people are going to physically attack you if you do? Is the number of current gay bashings really that high in comparison to the population?