Soooo....

[BarTopDancer]

My boss sent me a copy of LaughingPlace Magazine in the inter-office overnight.

[MouseWife]

I remember my brother telling my daughter, one year old at the time {whom I guess was pulling books down from a shelf?}~ "We must be good to our books. Our books are our friends".

I loved that. So true.

My father was an avid reader, we spent many summer days at the library.

Currently, I haven't finished a book in years. I was sent 'The Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood' and read it. A very good book.

I bought 'Kiterunner' but never had a chance to read it. Loaned it out. {what good is a book just sitting there if someone wants to read it and you can't?}

Vacations. Before I would hike/bike/whatever with the family, I was always able to enjoy a nice fat novel on our trips.

Before. :(

{now I really want to count my books....and JWBear, I haven't moved in 11 years. That would be a real task if I had to anytime soon.....}

[Not Afraid]

My boss sent me a copy of LaughingPlace Magazine in the inter-office overnight.
Is this connected with the website?

[BarTopDancer]

Is this connected with the website?

Yup. And the owner of the website designed one of our applications.

[Ponine]

Hey, it takes a lot of work to write that cheap. ;)

Which is why I wont throw any out. I might accidentaly pitch a 3894 original!!! THen I wont be able to say, but look!! I knew her when..... ;)

But yes, all kidding aside, I imagine it does take quite a bit of work.

[lindyhop]

No such thing as too many books.

I would agree with you but I recently discovered this sad fact: my living space does not increase as I collect more books and other objects. In fact my actual living space decreases as things take up a bigger proportion of the finite space I inhabit.

[lindyhop]

The goal should not be too have a lot of books but to have a reason for each book you have.

:snap:

I'm trying to look at all my possessions that way. Do I own them or do they own me?

[Capt Jack]

Im totally with you there. after my wife died I came to the fact of 'omg...what IS all this crap?' literally tons of things neither of us had used or even seen in a decade or more.

so except for a few sentimental things, its all gotta go.
the best way to start from scratch...is to truly start from scratch.

and wanna talk about books? Ive donated nearly 2 dozen very good sized boxes of books to numerous causes only to come across at least that many still buried in various places around the house.

ugh...one day the floor and I will once again meet. probably not soon however.

[lindyhop]

What is too many books? I just did a quick calculation in my living room and I have about 72 feet of bookshelf space all full of books. That's just the living room. It's not too much if it gives you joy but lately I'm just feeling hemmed in by all the clutter. If I can ever get the extra bedroom sorted out into something other than a big walk-in closet I wouldn't mind storing a lot of books in there. But I no longer want them surrounding me all the time.

[Alex]

I'm not trying to say there is an absolute value for "too many books." That will vary from situtation to situation and personality to personality.

But if you're feeling that they're in the way of how you want to live then that is probably a good indicator.

If you want to cut them down a bit, just be brutally honest in answering these question:

1. If someone had asked me if I owned this book would have have known the answer. (A lot of people have books they don't even remember they have; that's probably a candidate for disposal).

2. Will I ever read/reread this book. Be honest. If you've had a book for years and never read it, odds are you never will. If its been years since you read it, odds are you aren't going to reread it.

3. Does this book contain information that would be difficult to replace? And is it at all likely that I'll use that information (the 2000 media guide for the Oakland Athletics, maybe; the 2000 media guide for the Milwaukee Brewers, nope).

4. If I got rid of this book and suddenly the desire came up to read it again, would it be difficult to get again? A 1948 local history, maybe. A John Grisham paperback not at all.

5. Does it have any artifactual value (first editions, autographed, etc.)

6. Does it have any sentimental value. If so, what is that value. Is it valid sentiment?

In helping people work through their personal libraries I've found that most of the time the argument for keeping a book will fall into question six. And that when said out loud, that support frequently (though obviously not always) crumbles.

I have books that I know I'll reread, or that have information it is otherwise difficult to get, that are valuable as objects or have some sentimental value (a cheap ass pseudo-leather collected works of Twain that was my Christmas present in 1984; a book where Lani is thanked in the acknowledgements). But I don't have any books that I honestly know I won't read, that can easily be reacquired, have no object value, and have no good sentimental attachments.

For example, I reread Stephen R. Donald's Chronicles of Thomas Covenanent series six or seven years. But they are cheap paperbacks easily acquired so I don't actually keep them in the house and get rid of them when I'm done reading. And then five or six years later buy them again. But I haven't read Sagan's A Demon-Haunted World in a decade but will always keep a copy simply because it was an instrumental text in my intellectual development.

The answers vary infinitely but a lot of people when asked "why do you have that" will answer "because it's a book" as if that is a meaningful answer. Try the same excuses for keeping every pair of underwear you've ever owned.

Has anybody seen Clean Sweep on TLC? I love that show for the brutality it has in showing cluttered people just how pointless most of their stuff is and how their possessions come to own them. Maybe they've done it but I'd love to see how they'd handle a book accumulator.

[Ponine]

Has anybody seen Clean Sweep on TLC? I love that show for the brutality it has in showing cluttered people just how pointless most of their stuff is and how their possessions come to own them. Maybe they've done it but I'd love to see how they'd handle a book accumulator.
THey have, and its equally as brutal. i'll try to find the episode #.


and wanna talk about books? Ive donated nearly 2 dozen very good sized boxes of books to numerous causes only to come across at least that many still buried in various places around the house.

ugh...one day the floor and I will once again meet. probably not soon however.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you dont read, right?

[Snowflake]

I love my books, and I got rid of a sheetload before I left VA. I don't miss those, but I love all those I kept, those monetary value and those of purely sentimental value, all good reads, to me. I love me a good used books store, if it's the size of an airplane hangar, all the better.

[Capt Jack]

eh, I read but its mostly code.
for infotainment...no, not really. Last non-technical thing I read (not counting magazines) wasn Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" and even that nearly qualifies as 'tech'

[Disneyphile]

Ken's an absolute bookworm, often reading 2-3 books at one time, and finishing them within 1-2 days.

He loves fantasy/sci-fi stuff, and always kept them boxed away in shame (because of his parents' disapproval). So, when he moved in, and I populated the shelves with them, I saw him beaming. :) I love having his books around. It makes him happy, which makes me happy. :D

[lindyhop]

Probably six months ago I came to the realization that I should start thinning out my book collection. At first it felt like I was denying who I am. My books represent different parts of my life and for that reason I expected to keep all of them forever. When I finally realized that wasn't practical and I started looking at my collection more critically I realized many of the things that Alex listed, especially that most of what I have could be found again very easily.

[Morrigoon]

Hey, it takes a lot of work to write that cheap. ;)

I believe it. And believe me, if I had the talent for it, I'd be churning them out myself! Why not? :D

The thing that made me happy was discovering that I still have the very first romance novel I ever read. Something I picked up on a supermarket shelf when I was 13 and my mom let me read. She said she used to have to hide them from her mom and she didn't want me to have to do that.

To be honest, the sex scenes aren't the reason I read them. I like reading stories set in certain eras (like anything pre-1900, basically), and I'm a hopeless romantic at heart.

But lately my thing has been potboiler suspense novels, like the much-maligned Dan Brown stuff or a great book I just finished that I picked up for $8 at Target the other day, called "A Great And Terrible Beauty". Has a little touch of the romance to it, but it's mostly a chick-oriented suspense novel. Luckily for me, it's part of a series, so now I get to go look for the next book :)

Also been reading some of the Phillippa Gregory stuff, but MAN is her stuff depressing! All her books start off great and end horribly. Not much uplifting to finish it off. Great reads though. :)

[Snowflake]

I have a great weakness for the Amelia Peabody series by Elizabeth Peters. Sigh, to have seen Egypt back in those days, so much treasure, as yet undiscovered.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I used to sneak a flashlight into bed with me when I was little so that I could read books in the middle of the night.

I used to do that! My mom would almost always catch me and make me go to sleep. Or at least pretend to sleep; I had insomnia sometimes.

And, the cover wench must have a heaving bosom spilling forth from her lacy, corseted gown.

It also helps if all the sex scene pages are dog-eared. Not that I'd know anything 'bout that. ;)

Woot! Keep hoping that gown busts but it never does. ::sigh::


I'm trying to look at all my possessions that way. Do I own them or do they own me?

I'm kind of there with you. I gots me too much crap.

Ken's an absolute bookworm, often reading 2-3 books at one time, and finishing them within 1-2 days.

I do that... multiple books at once...


To be honest, the sex scenes aren't the reason I read them. I like reading stories set in certain eras (like anything pre-1900, basically), and I'm a hopeless romantic at heart.

While I'm not a hopeless romantic necessarily, I used to read those for the same things- the historical setting. My mom used to think I read it for the sex (but it's sex between boys and girls... not really what I want to think about...) but it was really for the adventure around it. I'd skip the sex scenes- boring. Mom never believed me.

[katiesue]

I have a great weakness for the Amelia Peabody series by Elizabeth Peters. Sigh, to have seen Egypt back in those days, so much treasure, as yet undiscovered.

Amelia is one of my favorite characters ever.

[Prudence]

I have a great weakness for the Amelia Peabody series by Elizabeth Peters. Sigh, to have seen Egypt back in those days, so much treasure, as yet undiscovered.

I love those. I want a parasol.

[Morrigoon]

While I'm not a hopeless romantic necessarily, I used to read those for the same things- the historical setting. My mom used to think I read it for the sex (but it's sex between boys and girls... not really what I want to think about...) but it was really for the adventure around it. I'd skip the sex scenes- boring. Mom never believed me.
Exactly. The sex scenes are usually fairly boring and predictable. Usually involving some metaphor about sheathing swords, and almost inevitably using the word throbbing at least once per sex scene, and usually some time the day after.

[MouseWife]

I would feel sad for people who didn't understand when I said reading took me to those places,times, and I could experience them.

I didn't feel like a geek. I felt sorry for them.

Throbbing. Sheaths. All of the terms...

'She felt his manlyness, as he held her close. her: " But no, that must just be a natural reaction, not to me, he would never find me attractive, I am not his type...." him: 'Oh, I am bursting with passion for this woman, this creature, but, she is so fragile, so special. I can not do anything to harm her, I can never let her know my true feelings, I am a beast...."

[alphabassettgrrl]

Exactly. The sex scenes are usually fairly boring and predictable. Usually involving some metaphor about sheathing swords, and almost inevitably using the word throbbing at least once per sex scene, and usually some time the day after.

'She felt his manlyness, as he held her close. her: " But no, that must just be a natural reaction, not to me, he would never find me attractive, I am not his type...." him: 'Oh, I am bursting with passion for this woman, this creature, but, she is so fragile, so special. I can not do anything to harm her, I can never let her know my true feelings, I am a beast...."

Now I'm giggling. :)

[Morrigoon]

Even if you don't read the back, you can always tell who the guy is going to be because the heroine always takes an instant dislike to him, then he decides he hates her too so he marries/ravishes/imprisons her to get even, and finds himself feeling an increasing tenderness or need for her, but she keeps fighting him until she feels a throbbing sensation in places she didn't know existed and soon finds she can't live without him. Then, if you're lucky and the novel hasn't ended yet, they unite against a common enemy, and then there's an epilogue 6-months to a few years later that shows them happily married.

[Not Afraid]

So, we saw David Sedaris read tonight (for the 6th or 7th time). He's so blindingly funny when he reads he stuff I can't stop laughing. I actually snorted in Royce Hall I was laughing so hard.

He just got back from a 3 month fact finding visit to Japan and had read us some diary entires. Having been there ourselves recently, I was dying over his observations. Whenever I read or hear him I feel like he's living a similar life to our - but able to share it in a way in envy. I always related to his Paris stories, now he has Japan stories and, more recently in my own life, I feel like I've living The Santaland Diaries only retitled The PetSitting Diaries. God, I love that man!

[€uroMeinke]

We are a media intensive household - lots of books, DVDs, and CDs - oh so hard to part with any. We've done some book purging in the past, mostly paperbacks, but there are some we'll always retain - the art books, philosophy books, sex books, fairy tales, and favorite authors - though that changes over time.

DVDs snuck up on us - Videos were never a problem becasue the one's we wanted were $70 or more. DVDs are cheaper than CDs these days - go figure - but becasue of that we've established quite a collection of favorites.

CDs is a tough one for me - even though the first thing I do when I get a new CD is rip it and download it to my iPod, I still like having the physical object and can't get into buying an mp3s ( though I love surfing music in the old days of napster). Perhaps someday I'll give up my Luddite ways in that respect

[MouseWife]

I actually snorted in Royce Hall I was laughing so hard.


You snort, too? It is sooo embarrassing but it only makes me laugh harder!!

[Morrigoon]

CDs is a tough one for me - even though the first thing I do when I get a new CD is rip it and download it to my iPod, I still like having the physical object and can't get into buying an mp3s ( though I love surfing music in the old days of napster). Perhaps someday I'll give up my Luddite ways in that respect

bit torrent!

[MouseWife]

CDs is a tough one for me - even though the first thing I do when I get a new CD is rip it and download it to my iPod, I still like having the physical object and can't get into buying an mp3s

I haven't disposed of any of my cd's {although I would say some are missing :mad: } because I worry about what happens if I lose my computer data, etc.

After I buy some new music and have uploaded it, I also make cd's with my favorite of the new stuff mixed with others and rotate them in my car. I have to use one of those gadgets to use my ipod in the car so unless I am going for a long drive, I just use my cds'.

And, an update:

My computer is still making people sound like chipmunks.

My family has threatened me if I play any more Ricky Martin.
Which is funny because don't they know telling someone not to do something only makes them want to do it more???

[blueerica]

Which reminds me I need to back my files up.

Most are mine, legally, while a few are borrowed. While they're still my pals *nods at Lisa & Chris* I should just go ahead and rip a few DVDs

[MouseWife]

Oh, I would love to burn some of the music videos I've seen.

Although not right now when they all sound like chipmunks.

[Morrigoon]

Damn, all this talk about trashy romances makes me wanna go out and buy another one :)

But a sobering look at my bank account earlier today will keep me away from the stores for a while!

[3894]

Even if you don't read the back, you can always tell who the guy is going to be because the heroine always takes an instant dislike to him, then he decides he hates her too so he marries/ravishes/imprisons her to get even, and finds himself feeling an increasing tenderness or need for her, but she keeps fighting him until she feels a throbbing sensation in places she didn't know existed and soon finds she can't live without him. Then, if you're lucky and the novel hasn't ended yet, they unite against a common enemy, and then there's an epilogue 6-months to a few years later that shows them happily married.


And that's the entire point of a romance novel, just as a mystery is the entire point of a mystery novel. It's predictable. Formulaic. The writers are hacks, not necessarily meaning they're bad writers (some are, some aren't) but that they're writers-for-hire writing to specific stylistic and editorial guidelines, including euphamisms and descriptions (called "tags"), length of manuscript, monogamous relationship for heroine, and happy ending.

The reader of romance novels knows what she's getting, just as the reader of mystery novels knows what she's getting. People read romance novels to be taken away from stuff IRL. Think of a reader in a hospital waiting room or on the subway to or from a stressful job. She just wants to be taken out of her life for a little bit. Romance novels do that.

Those sex scenes. With a few exceptions (like Ellora's Cave Publishing), the sex scene is supposed to advance the plot. A lot of it isn't true to female sexuality, IMO. It reads mechanical when the reader isn't invested in the characters and the outcome of the romance.

Those horrible covers. Here's the inside scoop: the bodice-ripper cover(called "clinch cover") intentionally appeals to older readers, as in 60 and older.

The romance novel industry is heading in new directions. The readership is aging. In Feb of this year, Harlequin launched a new contemporary romance series called Everlasting, series romance spanning years or an entire lifetime, depending. Harlequin NEXT is a new-stages-of-life imprint: "From that first baby at 45 to the first date after divorce or widowhood; from that first day of college-accompanied by your freshman daughter! - to dealing with three generations living in the same house".

I'm heading in new directions, too. My writing career has evolved and I am writing with my husband now. We just sold a manuscript about a mystery we solved on an Indian reservation. Yes, true story. No, not a murder mystery. When the book is out, I'm so hawking it to you.

[Mousey Girl]

I think I became an avid reader in third grade. That was when I fell in love with Charlotte's Web and Stuart Little. By 7th grade I was reading Stephen King. 7th grade was also when I read Caravans by Michner(sp?) and I understood what I was reading. In 8th grade I discovered Steinbeck.

I will take a good suspense/thriller over a romance novel anyday.

I have kept a few of the novels I truly enjoy reading, but over the years I have weeded out most of my "keepers."

[Stan4dSteph]

And that's the entire point of a romance novel, just as a mystery is the entire point of a mystery novel. It's predictable. Formulaic. The writers are hacks, not necessarily meaning they're bad writers (some are, some aren't) but that they're writers-for-hire writing to specific stylistic and editorial guidelines, including euphamisms and descriptions (called "tags"), length of manuscript, monogamous relationship for heroine, and happy ending.True, and I like mystery, but maybe that's why I so love Elizabeth George. I love that she posts a journal on her website that gives insight into her thought process. She has stated that she wants the characters to grow and change, not just be like Nancy Drew or Hardy Boys, forever trapped in time and solving the mystery of the week. She even went so far as to do something quite daring recently that caused a lot of strong reaction from fans. I think it was brilliant.

[JWBear]

I've been an avid Sci-Fi/Fantasy reader since Jr High. In our garage there are about 10 Staples printer paper boxes full of my Sci-Fi/Fantasy paperbacks. Some I've had for over 30 years now!

When I was living in Fullerton, I had them all out in a custom built bookshelf (it was only 4" deep) that took up most of a wall in my office. Unfortunately, it fell apart when we tried to move it. And now, we just don't have the room.

My dream house will have a library.

[Snowflake]

My dream house will have a library.

and a Home Theatre that seats 12-20 and has room to display my movie art in the lobby as well as a popcorn machine.......

[MouseWife]

A library, a home gym, a 'photo room' {to organize my photos, albums, etc.}, a game room, a room for my toys....

Oh, and rooms for the family, too. :D

Ooo! Popcorn machine! Yes!!!

[JWBear]

I actually designed my dream house once. It ended up being about 10,000 sqft. :rolleyes:

[Snowflake]

I actually designed my dream house once. It ended up being about 10,000 sqft. :rolleyes:

Well, isn't the Aaron Spelling mansion up for sale now? Hmmmm, wonder what the monthly mortgage would be on that?

I would also need to have a huge kitchen, pro stoves and the like, but also a kitchen big enough for the party to be held in it.

A view of the Pacific would also be lovely, why cold I not have won the Powerball and had the $$ to buy Falcon Lair before it was destroyed? we'd be BBQing right now.

[MouseWife]

While walking to La Salsa in Coronado, my son asked why we don't have one of those houses right along the beach....:rolleyes:

He said he would buy one when he grows up. :D

And, his dream house, he said, would have a pool as big as the house.

[Snowflake]

So, right now, yes, I'm a little excited. Just got the word, this coming Sunday, I'm having brunch with Kevin Brownlow while he is in SF (receiving the Mel Novikoff award at the SF Film Festival). Pretty sad if you think about it, I'm all hot and bothered over someone who looks like an absent minded professor. :D

[Morrigoon]

And that's the entire point of a romance novel, just as a mystery is the entire point of a mystery novel. It's predictable. Formulaic. The writers are hacks, not necessarily meaning they're bad writers (some are, some aren't) but that they're writers-for-hire writing to specific stylistic and editorial guidelines, including euphamisms and descriptions (called "tags"), length of manuscript, monogamous relationship for heroine, and happy ending.

The reader of romance novels knows what she's getting, just as the reader of mystery novels knows what she's getting. People read romance novels to be taken away from stuff IRL. Think of a reader in a hospital waiting room or on the subway to or from a stressful job. She just wants to be taken out of her life for a little bit. Romance novels do that.

Those sex scenes. With a few exceptions (like Ellora's Cave Publishing), the sex scene is supposed to advance the plot. A lot of it isn't true to female sexuality, IMO. It reads mechanical when the reader isn't invested in the characters and the outcome of the romance.

Those horrible covers. Here's the inside scoop: the bodice-ripper cover(called "clinch cover") intentionally appeals to older readers, as in 60 and older.

The romance novel industry is heading in new directions. The readership is aging. In Feb of this year, Harlequin launched a new contemporary romance series called Everlasting, series romance spanning years or an entire lifetime, depending. Harlequin NEXT is a new-stages-of-life imprint: "From that first baby at 45 to the first date after divorce or widowhood; from that first day of college-accompanied by your freshman daughter! - to dealing with three generations living in the same house".

I'm heading in new directions, too. My writing career has evolved and I am writing with my husband now. We just sold a manuscript about a mystery we solved on an Indian reservation. Yes, true story. No, not a murder mystery. When the book is out, I'm so hawking it to you.

I hope you don't think I'm insulting you. The truth is, I have a "collection" of romance novels for a reason... I like reading them :) I think I plowed through the entire Johanna Lindsay collection in my teens ;)

It's just that I'm acknowledging my interest in them has more to do with the setting than the "scenes". So, in truth, my interest relies even more upon the actual work the author puts into their novel, in terms of period research, their skill at weaving the story into the setting in a manner suitable to the time period, etc.

[Alex]

Out of curiosity, do you read non-romance historical fiction?

[3894]

I hope you don't think I'm insulting you.

No worries. People like what they like.

As for a dream house, the smaller the better. I'm seriously not dusting a 10,000 sq.ft. house!

[€uroMeinke]

No worries. People like what they like.

As for a dream house, the smaller the better. I'm seriously not dusting a 10,000 sq.ft. house!

Doesn't you dream house come equipped with staff?

[Alex]

My dream house is a relatively modest six room house (bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, two work rooms; no living room, family room, dining room, garage needed).

The important thing is that is surrounded by a couple thousand acres of wooded or hilly land so that I can pretend to not have neighbors.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

My dream house is a relatively modest six room house (bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, two work rooms; no living room, family room, dining room, garage needed).

The important thing is that is surrounded by a couple thousand acres of wooded or hilly land so that I can pretend to not have neighbors.

That's a dream compound. We'll need to incorporate this into the LoT commune concept.

[Snowflake]

No worries. People like what they like.

As for a dream house, the smaller the better. I'm seriously not dusting a 10,000 sq.ft. house!

Dust? You dust?;)

[Capt Jack]

my dream house is self cleaning. :snap:

[DreadPirateRoberts]

my dream house is self cleaning. :snap:

I have friends in mexico who have a house on a canal. The house is designed with tile floors that slightly slope toward the canal. You can literally hose down the floors in the house. It's not self cleaning, but it's close.

[Morrigoon]

Out of curiosity, do you read non-romance historical fiction?

Sometimes.

I read a lot of things, you know. Suspense novels, classics, books on investing, fantasy, I run the gamut. I just get a hair up my butt for something, and I'll read several books in a row in the same genre, then suddenly drop it cold for months.

[3894]

A tall, non-fat, decaf latte + a homemade oatmeal raisin cookie = lunch of champions.

[Prudence]

Gah. I'm really hungry but for some reason the thought of food makes me feel a little queasy.

[Alex]

I love it when the Supreme Court justices get catty with each other.


In today's decisions, the Court trivializes AEDPA's requirements and overturns decades-old sentences on the ground that they were contrary to clearly established federal law at the time - even though the same Justices who form the majority today were complaining at the time that this Court was changing that "clearly established law."

Still, perhaps there is no reason to be unduly glum. After all, today the author of a dissent issued in 1988 writes two majority opinions concluding that the views expressed in the dissent actually represent "clearly established" federal law at that time. So there is hope yet for the views expressed in this dissent, not simply down the road, but tunc pro nunc. Encouraged by the majority's determination that the future can change the past, I respectfully dissent.

I don't have a clue whether I agree with Roberts' dissent or not, but I can't help but picture him walking into Stevens' office (the justice writing the majority in question) and slamming down his dissent and shouting "in your face!"

[blueerica]

Oh, if I could only hand out mojo to Roberts... I don't care what his opinion was, but intelligently catty behavior is always a turn-on.

[Snowflake]

Ugh, co-worker lunch at Chevy's. Not my favorite spot, but her choice. Way too many chips and salsa passed my lips, groan, may I now curl up under my desk and emulate my cat and snooze the afternoon away?

[mousepod]

Soooo.... I'm coming down to the LA/Anaheim area this weekend. I'll be at the park for "Westfest" - the Disney Podcast Network's meet. I'm sure that I'll be free .... most of the weekend. If anyone down there wants to hang - please gimme a PM - Heather has stuff going on up here, so I'll be solo this time.

[Morrigoon]

Cool!

Park's gonna be kind of busy this weekend

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Soooo.... I'm coming down to the LA/Anaheim area this weekend. I'll be at the park for "Westfest" - the Disney Podcast Network's meet. I'm sure that I'll be free .... most of the weekend. If anyone down there wants to hang - please gimme a PM - Heather has stuff going on up here, so I'll be solo this time.

When are you heading back home? Sunday evening? I'm bringing a boat up from San Diego but I won't get back until sometime Sunday.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Playing soccer at lunch is worth it if for nothing else than the excuse to take a shower in the middle of the work day.

[mousepod]

When are you heading back home? Sunday evening? I'm bringing a boat up from San Diego but I won't get back until sometime Sunday.

Right now, my flight back is 8ish Monday night - but I might catch an earlier flight - Sloan's playing in San Francisco.

[Matterhorn Fan]

I hate being sick. This week sucks.

[Morrigoon]

Amazing how improvizational you can be when you're hungry. I just had a bagel with cream cheese and salsa.

[BarTopDancer]

It's gonna be a great summer.

[Morrigoon]

Go Ducks!

[DreadPirateRoberts]

I hate being sick. This week sucks.

I hope you feel better. At least the week is almost over.

[BarTopDancer]

Go Ducks!

:D That too.

Vegas trips, WDW and concerts oh my!

[Matterhorn Fan]

I hope you feel better. At least the week is almost over.

Thank you. :)

I'm not feeling much better, but I will...eventually. I still have a fever, but at least I'm not freezing cold right now.

[Not Afraid]

Gah. I'm really hungry but for some reason the thought of food makes me feel a little queasy.

Announcement?



MF, please feel better soon! Being sick in the summer sucks!

[Matterhorn Fan]

Being sick when I have to grade and when it's almost a friend's birthday sucks, too.

[Snowflake]

I hate being sick. This week sucks.

Oh, I'm sorry! I make a mean chicken soup, but this does not help you. Virtual chicken soup is not good.

Feel better soon! :coffee:

[Matterhorn Fan]

Chicken soup is not good for me--I'm vegetarian. (So, unless I want to add an upset stomach to the mix...). ;)

[Prudence]

Announcement?


Well, I finished my last law review obligation, but I sense that wasn't the announcement you were looking for.

In other news: last night my trademark professor hosted a small social gathering after our last class. One of my classmates from the arts clinic introduced me to another friend of hers - who apparently already knew of me, and just didn't know who I was. Apparently, she stalks the CALI award website (professors can give awards for the top student in each class) and has secretly been idolizing me as "the one with all the CALI awards." Not that I have so many (although I do have four), but apparently my name caught her eye because I got them in subjects she likes. And she wants to do the same moot court competitions I did. (she's a year behind me in the program.)

Typed out like that it looks all sort of stalkerish, but it wasn't like that. It was definitely weird, though. I'm not accustomed to being the object of hero worship. It was the first time I can recall that someone not related to me was "following my career".

[blueerica]

I don't think of it so much as stalkerish, so much as it is idolization.

I think it's awesome! Show the new kids how ta do it!

[blueerica]

I get my hair cut in a week! WOO!!

(nothing drastic, though... and for once, I'm glad)

[Gemini Cricket]

Was stuck in traffic on the 710.
Stopped at red head's house for a visit.
Saw cats and a big faux bear.
Film at 11.


:D

[Kevy Baby]

OMG... Trying to get caught up on the LoT and I think the lst half hour alone has been spent on this thread...

Welcome to page 800!You do know you can change the number of posts per page don't you? At 50 ppp, I am only on page 167 (at least I think that is where this is at).

You haven't really read through all the posts, have you?:eek:He should have... It is mandatory reading for all new (even of they are old) members.

Just finished catching up on the 800 posts since Thursday night... who says this place isn't active? I am in the middle of catching up on 2,094 posts.

So, has anyone heard from the Kevy Babies? I hope they're having a great time, and KB hasn't gotten his ass thrown in a Mexican jail yet.:DWe're alive. I have been avoiding the LoT knowing that there was going to be a LOT of posts to read.

Is it possible there are different "flavors" of avocado? I'm eating one now that I just got from the store, and while it's ripe and all... the flavor's just.... meh. And the whole fruit is very watery inside. I'm wondering if this is a different strain or something.

Always buy Haas avocados. Always.GD (and others) is right - Haas is the way to go.

What, no 1961 custom convertible Lincoln Continental limousine?I think their route takes them past a grassy knoll, so that may not be a good idea.

Well, this may only be interesting to myself, but Vistaprint...

Yes, Vista is terrific.I am not familiar with Vista Print, but (and I am sorry for posting a pseudo-advertisement) the print pricing for the company I work for offers some great pricing on printing and the quality is top-notch (everything is litho printed). http://www.dpcprint.com

No such thing as too many books.I was not saying that during the last move.

[Prudence]

Today I had to thin my carrot sprouts. I felt like some fascist dictator exterminating those specimens not fit to procreate as I created my master carrot race. Those poor sprouts! They could have been great carrots! And like a heartless tyrant I snuffed out their veggie lives.

[Morrigoon]

Today I had to thin my carrot sprouts. I felt like some fascist dictator exterminating those specimens not fit to procreate as I created my master carrot race. Those poor sprouts! They could have been great carrots! And like a heartless tyrant I snuffed out their veggie lives.
Best. Post. Ever.

[wendybeth]

Today I had to thin my carrot sprouts. I felt like some fascist dictator exterminating those specimens not fit to procreate as I created my master carrot race. Those poor sprouts! They could have been great carrots! And like a heartless tyrant I snuffed out their veggie lives.


How are your cucumbers?

:D

[Prudence]

How are your cucumbers?

:D

Bite me.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I listened to a lecture tonight by Michael Pollan who writes about the process and politics of food. My kind of lecture! I think this is the same guy who was on NPR a while back. I enjoyed it very much.

Now I have to write two 10-page papers for school. I'm not thrilled about it though one is mostly roughed out.

Kevy and GusGus- welcome back! :)

[CoasterMatt]

I'm just staring into my computer, realizing

"I've got a better light show going on in there than Rockin' Space Mountain!"

[Mousey Girl]

I soaked and pampered my feet in my foot spa tonight. They are all tingly from the bath salts I used.

I just wish Chicken would stop being so noisy. It is hard to try to relax with a chripping Chicken in the kitchen. I am looking forward to the day when she is big enough to go in her make shift pen outside. With the way she is eating and growing it shouldn't be more than another week. *sigh* I truly wish Nickolas wasn't so attached to her.

[Kevy Baby]

Kevy and GusGus- welcome back! :) Why thank you!

[Snowflake]

Chicken soup is not good for me--I'm vegetarian. (So, unless I want to add an upset stomach to the mix...). ;)

I can adapt and make a mean vegetarian soup! Alas, still does you no good, so far away. Hope you are feeling better today.

[blueerica]

I find reasons, each and every day, to love the LoT.

[katiesue]

I find reasons, each and every day, to love the LoT.

I feel the same way.

[BarTopDancer]

I hate pollen season.

[Capt Jack]

*achooo* yup

and oh joy, oh bliss...I get to cut my yard this weekend


just kill me now

[katiesue]

I hate pollen season.


Ugh me too. I got 89 out of 100 on the allergy scratch test. I've taken enough Benadryl in my lifetime that it doesn't even make me drowsy anymore.

Lately though if I take my Allegra daily and use my Nasonex it really helps a lot. I can still feel it a bit but I'm not down for the count when my allergies hit.

As a kid I was always itching my nose from the allergies, come to find out I've done it so much that I've completely broken all the cartilage in my nose. I can literally squish it flat. I was always so attractive with the constant runny nose and eyes swelled shut. Plus I’d breathe through my mouth causing chapped lips. They’d get so bad the entire area between my nose and mouth would be completely chapped and scabbed. Add braces and I was just the picture of attractiveness.

[blueerica]

I hate that opening a can of worms sensation.

[BarTopDancer]

KatieSue I bet you were hawt ;)

Had a raging headache and no voice yesterday. Called in sick again because of this sinus headache. I think my zyrtec has quit working and I've tried everything else. /sigh

[Capt Jack]

this is definitely reminding me to pack enough claritin to kill a horse for the camping trip. *sniff*

[BarTopDancer]

Anyone know what happens when you mix Zyrtec and Claritan?

[katiesue]

Probably won't kill you. When mine get bad Benadryl is the only thing that works. Zyrtec, Claratin, Allegra and the like, from my understanding are more preventative. Once it gets bad it's Benadryl for me.

And yea I was totally hot, or um not.

[BarTopDancer]

Benadryl puts me straight to sleep :(

[katiesue]

Take it with something that has a lot of sugar and caffiene. Like Dr. Pepper or Mt. Dew. Makes you a little funky but not so drowsey. But then again like I said I've been taking it by the gallon since I was about 10 so it doesn't effect me as much.

[Kevy Baby]

Anyone know what happens when you mix Zyrtec and Claritan?You get Zyritan.

[Prudence]

Allegra is the only one that's really that effective for me, but since the other drugs went OTC, I can't get Allegra at all. Claritin does absolutely nothing for me.

[katiesue]

Claritin does nothing for me either. I was paying full price for Allegra since insurance didn't cover, something like $49/month. But a few months ago they came out with generic Allegra so it's down to like $10.

[BarTopDancer]

Take it with something that has a lot of sugar and caffiene. Like Dr. Pepper or Mt. Dew. Makes you a little funky but not so drowsey. But then again like I said I've been taking it by the gallon since I was about 10 so it doesn't effect me as much.

I may try that if I get desperate. I just know that the last time I took it I tried to get ready for work in the middle of the night and have no memory of it except for the wet hair from my shower 3 hours later.

[Not Afraid]

Astelin has saved my life.

[BarTopDancer]

Astelin has saved my life.

Unfortunately I can't do nasal sprays. I wish I could, it would open up a whole new world of drugs.

[lindyhop]

My son came over yesterday and we spent the afternoon going through his former bedroom. We filled up about half a dumpster with stuff we threw out but there's still a bunch of junk in there to deal with. But it's now all in boxes and most of the dust is in the vacuum and, yes, we have open floor space!

Then his girlfriend joined us for dinner. I'd only met her briefly once before. I ended the evening dancing at Lindygroove. It's so nice not to have to be at work in the morning so I can go out after dark and have some fun. Back to the daily grind on Monday though.

[Alex]

I don't have allergies so I am stuck making fun of Lani's.

[RStar]

You're such a faithfull husband.....;)

[Alex]

Exceedingly faithful. But still a pain in the ass.

[Morrigoon]

Speaking of which, I ended up coming home from work at lunchtime. BLech.

Now I have only Airborne, A Star Is Born, and my dog to keep me company.

[Alex]

Numeracy. Learn it, love it.

Going from $1 million to $2 million is not a 200% increase. It is a 100% increase. It is 200% of the original. A 200% increase would be $3 million.

Similarly, if you go from 100 to 20 that is not a 400% decrease. Just because going from 20 to 100 is a 400% increase does not mean the same number applies in the other direction.

Finally, if you tell me that something decreased by more than 100% and you aren't talking about a negative number. Then please go slam your head in your car door until your legs stop kicking because I'm not going to take your results seriously.

Official Hyperbole. Know it. Avoid it.

400 gun shot wounds in two years among 80,000 black males between 18 and 25 is not "genocide." Especially when it is mostly those black males between 18 and 25 shooting each other. At best it is some kind of ethno-suicide.

[ozron]

Unfortunately I can't do nasal sprays. I wish I could, it would open up a whole new world of drugs.

...and that's always a good thing.

[Prudence]

Claritin does nothing for me either. I was paying full price for Allegra since insurance didn't cover, something like $49/month. But a few months ago they came out with generic Allegra so it's down to like $10.

Really? I've been suffering needlessly this spring? I'd better make an appointment with my doc. I couldn't even get a prescription to pay for Allegra myself when it was name brand-only; it just wasn't available at all from my health plan. I should see if it's available now!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Numeracy. Learn it, love it.

Going from $1 million to $2 million is not a 200% increase. It is a 100% increase. It is 200% of the original. A 200% increase would be $3 million.

Similarly, if you go from 100 to 20 that is not a 400% decrease. Just because going from 20 to 100 is a 400% increase does not mean the same number applies in the other direction.

Finally, if you tell me that something decreased by more than 100% and you aren't talking about a negative number. Then please go slam your head in your car door until your legs stop kicking because I'm not going to take your results seriously.

Official Hyperbole. Know it. Avoid it.

400 gun shot wounds in two years among 80,000 black males between 18 and 25 is not "genocide." Especially when it is mostly those black males between 18 and 25 shooting each other. At best it is some kind of ethno-suicide.Quoting for emphasis.

[3894]

Numeracy. Learn it, love it.

<snip!>

Official Hyperbole. Know it. Avoid it.

Colleges should drop their stupid minimal math graduation requirements in favor of a basic stats requirement. Basic stats is a life skill.

[Alex]

I don't know about most universities but when I was at the University of Washington, the first couple stats courses could be counted towards the math requirement and since the lowest math course you could take for credit was calculus that is what most people I know did.

[JWBear]

They put Hot Tamales in the vending machine at work. :)

[blueerica]

In my latest paper for a communications class (the one I asked the "Black or African American" question over) I found basic errors, like the ones you cited, made by my classmates when they were talking of increases and decreases of things. In a way, I'm glad I wrote a less research-intensive portion of the paper, since it allowed me to spend the time finding their errors and fixing them.

On a much more funny note, this picture amused me. Wish I'd seen it for Easter.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n263/blueerica/peep-smoking.jpg

[BarTopDancer]

Numeracy. Learn it, love it.

Going from $1 million to $2 million is not a 200% increase. It is a 100% increase. It is 200% of the original. A 200% increase would be $3 million.

Similarly, if you go from 100 to 20 that is not a 400% decrease. Just because going from 20 to 100 is a 400% increase does not mean the same number applies in the other direction.

Finally, if you tell me that something decreased by more than 100% and you aren't talking about a negative number. Then please go slam your head in your car door until your legs stop kicking because I'm not going to take your results seriously.

Official Hyperbole. Know it. Avoid it.

400 gun shot wounds in two years among 80,000 black males between 18 and 25 is not "genocide." Especially when it is mostly those black males between 18 and 25 shooting each other. At best it is some kind of ethno-suicide.

My brain is melting!!!!!!!!

Colleges should drop their stupid minimal math graduation requirements in favor of a basic stats requirement. Basic stats is a life skill.

But then I'd have no chance at a degree...


Oh wait.

On a much more funny note, this picture amused me. Wish I'd seen it for Easter.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n263/blueerica/peep-smoking.jpg

You have no idea how fitting your post really is...

[Morrigoon]

Kevy, I know you've wondered how you could top your tooth fairy costume next Halloween. Well, here's a suggestion: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/morrigoon/4-1-07/P1040135.jpg

[Kevy Baby]

Walking around in my underwear? Not much of a stretch.

Now walking around in SUSAN's underwear might be an option.

[MouseWife]

Ha, I doubt if that is much of a stretch, either.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Ha, I doubt if that is much of a stretch, either.
That depends. What size does she wear?

[MouseWife]

That depends. What size does she wear?

*wipes off screen*

True. ;)

[Kevy Baby]

Ha, I doubt if that is much of a stretch, either.Have you been spying on me?



(Many Years Ago - three girlfriends before Susan - my girlfriend at the time thought it would be entertaining for me to wear her underwear. Basically, I had to wear them backwards so that the butt designed for her would hold my junk: otherwise things would hang out the sides very uncomfortably.)

[MouseWife]

Have you been spying on me?



(Many Years Ago - three girlfriends before Susan - my girlfriend at the time thought it would be entertaining for me to wear her underwear. Basically, I had to wear them backwards so that the butt designed for her would hold my junk: otherwise things would hang out the sides very uncomfortably.)

No comment.

I will not incriminate myself or any other LoT members. :evil:

[3894]

(Many Years Ago - three girlfriends before Susan - my girlfriend at the time thought it would be entertaining for me to wear her underwear. Basically, I had to wear them backwards so that the butt designed for her would hold my junk: otherwise things would hang out the sides very uncomfortably.)

Ahhhh, that's better. My wait for another LoT post about someone's personal package is at an end!

[Kevy Baby]

Ahhhh, that's better. My wait for another LoT post about someone's personal package is at an end!Glad I could help.

Maybe I should have put that bit in spoiler tags

[MouseWife]

I think most of your posts should be in spoiler tags. :eek:


{kidding, somewhat...}

[Prudence]

I. Am. Crazy.

I just signed up for another moot court competition. In-house is brief-only, then regional, where I would finally get to kick some UW bootay, and then nationals in November. And yes, I want to get to nationals. I would love to go out in a blaze of glory. And I was actually recruited by my new fan club, which is of course good for the ego. I had considered doing the competition when the announcement came out, but I didn't know who to ask as I didn't know who to ask that wasn't graduating next month. Problem solved!

[MouseWife]

You. Are. Good. :snap:

Fan Club? A freakin' fan club?

You. Are. Great.

[katiesue]

Really? I've been suffering needlessly this spring? I'd better make an appointment with my doc. I couldn't even get a prescription to pay for Allegra myself when it was name brand-only; it just wasn't available at all from my health plan. I should see if it's available now!


Generic name is Fexoffenadine

[Prudence]

Generic name is Fexoffenadine

Thanks!

That sounds so dirty, though. "I'd sure like to fex Nadine offen, if you know what I mean!"

[Mousey Girl]

It. Is. HOT!

My car said 96, so that means it was 93. I'm not ready for hot weather!!! *whine*

[wendybeth]

Probably won't kill you. When mine get bad Benadryl is the only thing that works. Zyrtec, Claratin, Allegra and the like, from my understanding are more preventative. Once it gets bad it's Benadryl for me.

And yea I was totally hot, or um not.

Benadryl is the only thing that works halfways decently on my allergies. None of the prescription non-drowsy meds work, and corticosteroids are not helpful either. Like you, I've been taking Benadryl for so long that it seldom makes me sleepy. I was soooo happy when it went O.T.C.- now i don't have to go to the docs to get it.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Ahhhh, that's better. My wait for another LoT post about someone's personal package is at an end!

LoT's Law:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a discussion involving packages approaches one

[lashbear]

Now walking around in SUSAN's underwear might be an option.

I had to wear them backwards so that the butt designed for her would hold my junk: otherwise things would hang out the sides very uncomfortably.)

Junk-Teaser. :p

[Ghoulish Delight]

It. Is. HOT!

My car said 96, so that means it was 93. I'm not ready for hot weather!!! *whine*It hit 94 inside our array room (read "room with the largest collection of expensive equipment our company owns") when the AC went down yesterday morning. That was fun.

[BarTopDancer]

I just took two 10mg zyrtec. Let's see what happens.

And the Ducks lost. I am sad. /cries

[blueerica]

I haven't been able to get rid of these hiccups for an hour and a half... i want to sleep, DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, I'm cool now

<hic>

[Matterhorn Fan]

Still sick, dammit.

I'll trade my flu for your hiccups, blueerica.

[blueerica]

I actually think I'm coming down with something today. It's that whole "I was so stressed out since February, now that it's over, my body's letting it all go" syndrome where I come down with something super nasty.

I feel like I got hit by a mack truck.

[Stan4dSteph]

Still sick, dammit.

I'll trade my flu for your hiccups, blueerica.:(

Get better!

[Kevy Baby]

I feel like I got hit by a mack truck.Get better soon E.

And BTW: I love the current sig line :)

[Matterhorn Fan]

I actually think I'm coming down with something today. It's that whole "I was so stressed out since February, now that it's over, my body's letting it all go" syndrome where I come down with something super nasty.

I feel like I got hit by a mack truck.If what you've got is anything like what I've got, save yourself the pain of doing it later and go out now to buy cough syrup, nasal decongestant, pain killers, cough drops, kleenex, etc.

That trip to Target today was NOT fun.

[blueerica]

Yeah, my throat's all messed up, I am having headaches and bodyaches. Not too stuffy... yet.

I never get "fully" sick. You know.. the knock-down, drag-out, can't get out of bed sick. Which in some ways is good, but most of the time, it means I'm a part of the working-sick. I go to school, but try to not sit near anyone, I continue working. I never end up just staying in bed to get better, because I can't justify it.

So I'll be okay. You on the other hand... get over that flu!

[Matterhorn Fan]

I'm trying...believe me. But I fear I'll have to be part of the working sick tomorrow. Grrr.

[blueerica]

I'm feeling better today, and I managed to get 10+ hours of sleep. For someone who rarely sleeps over 6.... maybe 7 on a rare restful morning, this is astounding.

[Mousey Girl]

Today is the day to make a Mission Cake, shaped like the Santa Cruz Mission. Nick has been driving me nuts wanting to know when my firends will be here so that he can get started on it. This should be an interesting experience. The house smells like cake and it is making me hungry!

[blueerica]

http://cdn.davesdaily.com/pictures/246-grrahh.jpg

[wendybeth]

Chipmunk wrath! (Are those chipmunks?)


Lol- very cute!

[MouseWife]

LOL

That face!!!

[blueerica]

I have no idea... I was looking up something else online and came across that picture.

[Matterhorn Fan]

I'm tired and I can't sleep.

[AllyOops!]

Let me begin by saying for all of the ribald naughtiness I so richly enjoy posting about, my values are rather old-fashioned. Call it getting older, call it Catholic fear, call it what you want. However, maybe it explains why I was reduced to gags by the baby-tee I saw whilst shopping online (it was geared toward juniors):

"With an ass like this, who cares what my tits look like?"

Is this what we teach our young ladies of tomorrow? It brings to mind the song Stupid Girls by P!nk- "What happened to the dreams of a girl president? She's dancing in a video next to 50 Cent".

I'm not saying that a woman shouldn't embrace & celebrate her femininity & sexuality. I completely support that 100%! A healthy self-image not dictated by society and Paris Hilton & pals is admirable. As cliched as it may seem, your mind & soul are the most powerful things about you. Not your funbags.

Then, I saw & read about the most vile thing of all- a stripper pole marketed to & for children. It's one thing to be an adult & have one (I'm not going to lie- I've always wanted one) but a child? And don't even get me started on Bratz dolls. The mold-injected version of the porn star.

Am I too rigid? Preachy? Somebody please back me up on this! :(

(and yes, I look like a complete hypocrite with my signature. I love sexy, frilly & girly stuff! The difference is, I'm a grown-up. Regardless of my behavior. :p)

[Matterhorn Fan]

I guess writing on the butts of sweatpants was just the beginning.

[Strangler Lewis]

I back you up on this. My daughter will never wear sweats with writing on the butt, leopard prints, "Daddy's little princess" t-shirts, "Spoiled rotten," etc.

While we're on the subject, she will also not wear hunter camouflage. What's up with that?

[Mousey Girl]

The cake is finished!!! All I can say is tht I have GREAT friends! Carrie came over (with her wonderful 1 year old son). She immediatly started carving, cutting and staking pieces into place. Nickolas was on baby duty and he did a superb job, but he did say that watching a baby is hard work. Another friend, Emily came over and all we could do was watch Carrie go. She called it quits after she frosted the mess with 2 coats. Nickolas just finished putting on the finishing touches, Golden Grahams for the roof tiles and couple of crosses from the model he did yesterday. I added some shredded coconut, sprayed with green food coloring, for grass and it is now complete. It is not perfect, but at the same time it is totally home made. I feel sorry for whoever cuts into it tomorrow, since it is filled with toothpicks and scewers.

[blueerica]

Then, I saw & read about the most vile thing of all- a stripper pole marketed to & for children. It's one thing to be an adult & have one (I'm not going to lie- I've always wanted one) but a child?

A stripper pole marketed for kids?

What? Where?

[Boss Radio]

It is just the 21st Century equivalent of
Let's Get it On
If This Van's a Rockin', Don't Bother Knockin'
Gas, Grass or Ass...No One Rides for Free...


With each successive generation, it becomes harder to push the proverbial envelope because there's not much envelope left.

And really, only the truly pretty hot girls (who are going to have underage sex anyway) are the target demo for those shirts, so civilization won't crumble any faster. Just more provocatively.

[Mousey Girl]

2 women came in to rent things for a dinner for a major, national charity. Too bad no one from the charity they were representing was with them. They were so trasy looking. One had on velour shorts with PINK across her a$$ and the other was in a longish, black, slinky dress with the front almost to her navel. Neither woman was what I would consider young, both appeared to be at least 10 years older than me. We are talking a major charity, one that is currently holding "Relays" all over the place right now.

[wendybeth]

Hey, I just looked at the first post in this auspicious thread, and realized I was the second poster, after the illustrious and illusive OP, Fej.

As usual, I was doing nothing worth writing about.

[Mousey Girl]

I have lots to say, to talk about, but am under a gag order. That is why I have not been posting any updates with my personal situation.

BTD, you were right.


On the other side of things...I get to try to get The Cake to Nick's class today, along with his model. This is going to be a logistical nightmare. I am hoping we can cut through the day care building and avoid the crush of kids and parents.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Is this what we teach our young ladies of tomorrow? It brings to mind the song Stupid Girls by P!nk- "What happened to the dreams of a girl president? She's dancing in a video next to 50 Cent".

I'm not saying that a woman shouldn't embrace & celebrate her femininity & sexuality. I completely support that 100%! A healthy self-image not dictated by society and Paris Hilton & pals is admirable. As cliched as it may seem, your mind & soul are the most powerful things about you. Not your funbags.

Then, I saw & read about the most vile thing of all- a stripper pole marketed to & for children. It's one thing to be an adult & have one (I'm not going to lie- I've always wanted one) but a child? And don't even get me started on Bratz dolls. The mold-injected version of the porn star.


I'm kind of with you. I deplore much of what's marketed these days, to everybody, but especially to children. I'm kind of glad we don't have any, because they'd wantt this stuff and under no circumstances would I allow it. So much of "pop culture" is awful. I'm glad to be out of touch with it. Everybody's wearing it, so it sort of looks normal, but it's cheap, trashy, and annoying.

I hate the Bratz dolls too- do you really want your daughter playing with hootchie mama dolls with a name like Brats? Brat is generally something to avoid. I appreciate that they're not Barbie, but they're still awful, just in different ways.

The writing on the butt.... oh, no. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for admiring a good butt, but I don't think it's an attractive look. My friend and I were cracking jokes when a girl walked by with "juicy" on her butt. Um, ewww.

The other thing I hate is when a girl leaves nothing to the imagination. As much as I admire a woman showing off her assets, the "ultra-slut" look just isn't right for daily wear.

I hear you, Ally, and while it may be a "growing older" thing, I don't have a Catholic background to account for any of what I feel.
**hugs**
-k

[BarTopDancer]

BTD, you were right.

That is one thing I really hoped I was wrong on. I'm so sorry. We are all still here for you. :(

[Ponine]

A stripper pole marketed for kids?

What? Where?
Oddly enough, this made national news a while back. Some parents were upset that their child had found this, I beleive while shopping for toys online.

I'm at work now, so I cannt search for the story, but it is out there. Just for some wierd reason I cannot search for words like strip, or stipper while at work. :p

[BarTopDancer]

There is a thread or a post about this somewhere.

[Matterhorn Fan]

Here it is. (http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/biz2/0701/gallery.101dumbest_sex/13.html)

[Strangler Lewis]

I back you up on this. My daughter will never wear sweats with writing on the butt, leopard prints, "Daddy's little princess" t-shirts, "Spoiled rotten," etc.

While we're on the subject, she will also not wear hunter camouflage. What's up with that?

And while we're at it: heelies?! Or whatever they're called. Rather than buy them, I'm just going to teach my kids to break into song every few seconds in the middle of a conversation. As W.C. Fields said, "When I drink water, I drink water. When I drink whiskey, I drink whiskey."

[Kevy Baby]

There is a thread or a post about this somewhere.Right here (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=4613)

[blueerica]

Ha! I do know why I missed it, though...

[Kevy Baby]

Ha! I do know why I missed it, though...Because you don't read threads started by Coaster Matt?

[Ghoulish Delight]

So, I'm blogging. I can safely say that I never really expected to ever find myself blogging. But now that I am, I'm rather enjoying it. I don't even really give a sh*t whether anybody's reading it (and I'm sure no one is), which I think is why I've been able so far to keep it going. I mean, it's been a way to push me to catalog and document for myself some stuff that I've been meaning to do for years, the blog has just given me a focused format that's helping me organize it and been a catalyst to start it. Whee.

[Alex]

Do you mean more like online journaling or informational blogging? I've never considered the average LiveJournal (for example) a blog but a lot of people think of it that way.

[€uroMeinke]

So it's 10:35 and I'm sitting in my livingroom, in my bath robe, still sipping my first cup of coffee - Coachella was fun, but damn - I feel destroyed

[AllyOops!]

Thank you guys so very much for responding to my post! Thank you, too, for posting the link to the stripper pole! I had just read an article this weekend about the stripper pole for little girls in the newest issue of Glamour magazine (by the way, you can always tell when I've read an issue of Glamour. I go all "I am woman hear me roar" for about 3 days straight!) However, my feelings on this subject have always been the same. Why rush into the world of adulthood? Enjoy being a child!

A few years ago, my stepmom, my brother & myself took my baby brother to see Britney Spears in concert (my baby brother loved her music, my older brother went for the eye candy :D ). While it was a fun & glittery show, the biggest spectacle of all were the little girls in full hoochie regalia. My brother & I nearly passed out when we witnessed an adorable little girl, about 5 yrs. old, wearing a hot pink triangle bikini top, teensy mini skirt & boots. Of course, dear old Moms was wearin' the same matching ensemble. Oh, and endless, sarcastic props to the older women dressed in Britney's Hit-Me-Baby-One-More-Time schoolgirl outfit. C'mon now! If the look you were trying to achieve is underage innocent schoolgirl, you missed the mark. If ancient desperate hosehound in pigtails once rejected by Barely Legal magazine was your goal, then score one for you.

Okay, now I feel guilty! :( I didn't mean to be mean, but really! Is it such a difficult task to exude a little class & self-respect? Is dignity out of style this season? Because in my eyes, it never goes out of style. :)

[Ghoulish Delight]

Do you mean more like online journaling or informational blogging? I've never considered the average LiveJournal (for example) a blog but a lot of people think of it that way.No, not the LJ variety. I've been doing that on and off for a while, and I agree it's not really "blogging." I guess what I've started is a little in between in that it's still kinda introspective, but it's focused on a theme and I'm presenting something specific with each post rather than just journaling stuff as it comes to mind like I do on LJ.

[3894]

Is dignity out of style this season? Because in my eyes, it never goes out of style.

Seriously. It's all about the gravitas.

I don't know how dignified I am but I do know I'm damn happy to rest on the oars and just gliiiiide.

[Morrigoon]

I don't know why, but this image really makes me think of all those cheesy spy movies from the 70's. Probably those crazy egghead helmets in the background:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18396184/displaymode/1168/rstry/18393031/rpage/1/

[Prudence]

Boris now has thyroid problems. :(

[Morrigoon]

I was just reminded that postal rates go up in two weeks. I had better hurry up and get my butt to the post office for 2-cent stamps if I'm going to use them as a marketing giveaway! Guess I know where I'm going after work...

[Matterhorn Fan]

Still sick.

[Kevy Baby]

I was just reminded that postal rates go up in two weeks.Interestingly, Standard Mail (Bulk) rates are going DOWN slightly for a couple of Non-Profit classes.

[BarTopDancer]

Drove past the Shell station by my office - unleaded is $3.57. Now, RSM is insanely expensive but it was still a shock to see it that high.

I realize that the 10 cents a gallon difference between HB and RSM is only about $1.00 in my tank but I'm still glad I am in HB enough these days to fill up there. I'm also super glad I am now living in Irvine instead of RSM.

[Kevy Baby]

I don't know why, but I consistently see some of the best gas prices in Southern California in Brea. Which is nice since I live there!

[lashbear]

I don't know why, but I consistently see some of the best gas prices in Southern California in Brea. Which is nice since I live there!

Well, naturally.. That's where all the tar comes from, isn't it ?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Well, naturally.. That's where all the tar comes from, isn't it ?That would be La Brea. Amazing what a difference on little definite article makes.

[Kevy Baby]

Well, naturally.. That's where all the tar comes from, isn't it ?The La Brea Tar Pits (http://www.tarpits.org/) are 32.7 miles from Brea, CA (http://www.ci.brea.ca.us/) and are completely unrelated.

We get that a lot.

[Mousey Girl]

It is HOT! It hit 97 Saturday and Sunday. I just got home and the rats were begging me to turn down the a/c.

I am trying to figure out how ti swing a DLR weekend in June... Just me and The Boy, kicking back during the day at the pool, at night in the parks. The only thing standing in the way is $.

[BarTopDancer]

Anyone want to write my ethical paper for me? It's on gay marriage.

[Morrigoon]

If I hadn't lost my paper on the topic in a hard drive crash, I'd be happy to assist you.

[Mousey Girl]

I feel very old right now... All of my college papers were written without the aid of computers.

[Alex]

"The Disaster of the Commons and Private Property: Protection of Individual Property Value as a Metaphor for Dilution of the Marriage Institution by Expansion"

You take it from there.

[Morrigoon]

I feel very old right now... All of my college papers were written without the aid of computers.
Sadly, I had a paper copy, which I threw out prior to the crash.

[BarTopDancer]

It's written, I just have to fix it. I am using Mill's "Harm Theory" and need to use another theory. I admit sheer laziness to not wanting to go look one up. Well sheer laziness and total focus on this San Jose/Detroit game.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Boris now has thyroid problems. :(

Poor Boris. My hound has had thyroid pills for some time now, with good results; hopefully Boris just needs those.

[Morrigoon]

Do you have to use official academic theories? Or can you reference religious tenets, such as Wicca's "An it harm none.."?

[BarTopDancer]

Have to be theories from the book :(

[Prudence]

John Stuart Mill!

[Kevy Baby]

Have to be theories from the book :(We've got plenty of Wiccan books to borrow...

[blueerica]

Oh, if I can say anything nice about my educational status.. I'm past ethics.

Thank. Farking. Goodness.

Now I just look at numbers and interpret them - gleaning meaning from population variances and creating marketing plans around said numbers. F*ck... I actually miss my other classes. Who knew it would get so hard-nosed at the end.

On the plus side... This summer... I'm taking human sex-u-al-ity (my last non-law-business-marketing class)... Like it's gonna even be half as much fun as I hope it will be.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Echoing back to Alex's earlier numeracy, this bugged me.

MSNBC ran this story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18407350/) about a group of 7 Kaiser Permanente workers in Santa Ana who won a large lottery jackpot a year and a half ago. It's the usual crap about trying to learn how to invest, dealing with the paranoia, and people trying to get at their money. Blah blah.

But it's the very last line (with no indication that it was said sarcastically or ironically) that got me:

"It was a crapshoot, really."

Unclear on the concept much?

[BarTopDancer]

We've got plenty of Wiccan books to borrow...

Our school book :(

Oh, if I can say anything nice about my educational status.. I'm past ethics.

Thank. Farking. Goodness.

Now I just look at numbers and interpret them - gleaning meaning from population variances and creating marketing plans around said numbers. F*ck... I actually miss my other classes. Who knew it would get so hard-nosed at the end.

I think I'd rather write the paper than deal with anything that resembles math :p

[BarTopDancer]

Aren't people who think they are immune to rules and processes super cool?

/rolleyes

[Kevy Baby]

Aren't people who think they are immune to rules and processes super cool?But I am supercool :p

[blueerica]

Echoing back to Alex's earlier numeracy, this bugged me.

MSNBC ran this story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18407350/) about a group of 7 Kaiser Permanente workers in Santa Ana who won a large lottery jackpot a year and a half ago. It's the usual crap about trying to learn how to invest, dealing with the paranoia, and people trying to get at their money. Blah blah.

But it's the very last line that got me:

"It was a crapshoot, really."

Unclear on the concept much?

Echoing back to Alex's earlier numeracy, this bugged me.

MSNBC ran this story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18407350/) about a group of 7 Kaiser Permanente workers in Santa Ana who won a large lottery jackpot a year and a half ago. It's the usual crap about trying to learn how to invest, dealing with the paranoia, and people trying to get at their money. Blah blah.

But it's the very last line (with no indication that it was said sarcastically or ironically) that got me:

"It was a crapshoot, really."

Unclear on the concept much?

Echo... Echo... Echo... Echo...

[Ghoulish Delight]

Echo... Echo... Echo... Echo...Gack, how'd that happen? (for those that see this post-fix, I had double posted)

[3894]

You know, Saltines kind of rule.

[BarTopDancer]

I really want to know why this software is not updating.

[blueerica]

Gack, how'd that happen? (for those that see this post-fix, I had double posted)

The best part, for my nerdy, dorky self, was that you opened with "Echoing back..."

Yeah, I'm a dweeb.

[JWBear]

Heroes rocked last night!

[Mousey Girl]

I just got off the phone. Nickolas and I will be spending a long weekend at the Resort from June 22-25. We have rooms at the DLH and out new AP's will be waiting for us on arrival. It is hitting me hard, though. It is very bittersweet. For the first time it will only be reservations for 2, not 3.

[blueerica]

I just want the next three weeks to WHIZ right on by. That would be nice. Yeah...

[Kevy Baby]

I just want the next three weeks to WHIZ right on by. That would be nice. Yeah...Here: maybe this will help


http://www.slashfood.com/images/2005/09/cheez.jpg

[BarTopDancer]

I don't want today to ever end.

/sob

[blueerica]

Mmm... let's make it even easier...

http://www.beloblog.com/KHOU_Animal_Attraction/animalattraction/EasyCheese.jpeg

[Kevy Baby]

I don't want today to ever end.

/sobPor que?

[Capt Jack]

I don't want today to ever end.

/sob

I will gladly donate the rest of my day to your cause and leave now.

(if only)

[Morrigoon]

Is there anything worse than a good batch of McDonald's fries ruined by an excessively generous application of salt?

...well, maybe cold In 'N Out french fries.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

So I feel like I've never been busier.

So there is an average of 300 LoT posts every time I check in briefly.

So I am so out of touch!

So I miss you guys.

[Kevy Baby]

So?

[Morrigoon]

...what are you doing right now?

[Capt Jack]

singing along with "If I were a rich man" playing in my headphones.

I wonder...would it spoil some vast eternal plan?

[blueerica]

I don't want today to ever end.

/sob

Yeah, I'm curious about this, as well...

I should say... I want the next few weeks to whiz by whilst I miraculously get a lot of stuff done. :)

[AllyOops!]

Heroes rocked last night!

Heroes is the bomb (no pun intended) and as always, it was simply awesome last night! :snap:

My boyfriend & I have Heroes night every Monday. That's our show to watch together. The best part is that I love every character (except Matt- he's beginning to creep me out) and the suspense that it leaves me in. I'm always left wanting more.

Dare I say that I find Sylar (Zachary Quinto) sexy? Whoohoo! :D

[Gn2Dlnd]

So?

So say we all.

[Kevy Baby]

So say we all.Say what?!?

[BarTopDancer]

what.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Dark Chocolate m&m's - proving that most of the flavor of an m&m comes from the candy shell.

[Kevy Baby]

what.Thank you for following instructions.

[BarTopDancer]

Thank you for following instructions.

Ladies and gentlemen - history has been made. :D :p

[JWBear]

Heroes is the bomb (no pun intended) and as always, it was simply awesome last night! :snap:

My boyfriend & I have Heroes night every Monday. That's our show to watch together. The best part is that I love every character (except Matt- he's beginning to creep me out) and the suspense that it leaves me in. I'm always left wanting more.

Dare I say that I find Sylar (Zachary Quinto) sexy? Whoohoo! :D

Yes he is... Evil sexy.

There is quite a bit of hunkage on the show...

[alphabassettgrrl]

Is there anything worse than a good batch of McDonald's fries ruined by an excessively generous application of salt?


During a certain week of the month, "too much" salt is impossible. Unfortunately for my waistline. I have to make sure I limit myself.

Though I don't like McD's fries. Or In-N-Out.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Though I don't like McD's fries. Or In-N-Out.

Wait, then what kind of fries do you like? I mean, I just kinda figure that if someone likes fries at all, they gotta like one of those two. I can understand liking one and not the other (not a fan of In-N-Out's myself), but neither? But you like other fries? Does not compute. :p

[MouseWife]

Native Foods {I think that is the name....} has delicious french fries. Ummm...I wouldn't mind some right now....

Home made french fries...mmmmmmm....but having to deep fry them {which makes them soo good} is not so good.

[Alex]

French fries that in any way resemble the potatoes from whence they came are never any good.

But yeah, it seem to me if you don't like either McDonald's or In-N-Out's then it is hard to imagine what you do like (hopefully not Ore-Ida oven baked).


I've had severely extremely oversalted McDonald's fries in a row so I'm starting to wonder if they've changed a salting procedure. Lani would dip a salt lick in soy sauce to give it that final salty kick, so when she says the fries are too salty you know they must be.

[lashbear]

I've had severely extremely oversalted McDonald's fries in a row so I'm starting to wonder if they've changed a salting procedure. .

I don't suppose the cost of sodas has gone up around the same time ?

[blueerica]

Yeah, if anything I have issues with McD's fries. I'm not a salt person. When it's "that time" I'll tolerate a little salt. IMO, salt is for the rim of my margarita. :D

[BarTopDancer]

Hey Erica -:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


I finished the first draft of my paper! YAY!!!!!! It's easy to fill up space when using sources.

[Prudence]

Bleah. Finals Thursday and Saturday and they're open book so I don't feel like studying. At all. I'd rather sit around and let my brain ooze out my ears.

[blueerica]

Yes, sources can be good like that!

HUZZAH! Grats!

[Mousey Girl]

I have already had a productive morning. My car is cleaned out, ready to be washed and serviced. Nick and I played 2 rounds of Mario Kart. Now it is off to my claw appointment, then to the car wash, dealership, bank (where are the checks I ordered 3 weeks ago??), meet the person I want Nick to go to for summer day care.... It is going to be a busy day! All I really want to do is curl up and go to sleep!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I have already had a productive morning. My car is cleaned out, ready to be washed and serviced. Nick and I played 2 rounds of Mario Kart. Now it is off to my claw appointment, then to the car wash, dealership, bank (where are the checks I ordered 3 weeks ago??), meet the person I want Nick to go to for summer day care.... It is going to be a busy day! All I really want to do is curl up and go to sleep!Mario Kart: an essential part of a productive morning. :D

[blueerica]

Ay ay ay ay ay ay...

OK... Here we go. Crazy Week Round 3 starts.....

...... now.

[Ghoulish Delight]

So, I've got a headache today. Hooray!

[Not Afraid]

I am not 18. I am not 18. I am not 18.


I'm tired and I've done it to myself. But, I so love going out to see a band mid-week.

[JWBear]

I just got curious and did the math.... This thread was started 840 days ago, and we're at 8497 posts. That averages out to a little over 10 posts per day.

ETA: I predict we'll hit post 10,000 about Columbus Day.

[Morrigoon]

Starbucks has earned my ire this morning.

That is all.

[wendybeth]

How much is ire going for these days?;)



(I try to stay away from Starbucks- they annoy the hell out of me with all their 'starspeak' and crappy coffee).

[Not Afraid]

Dexter is about to have surgery - another tooth extraction. He's got the worst teeth and developed an abscess! Poor boy. Do they make kitty dentures? The good news is that his blood work looks perfect. He's a healthy 10 year old.